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Subject: Re: arena bug

Author: jefkaan

Date: 09:03:23 07/05/05

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On July 04, 2005 at 23:24:15, Peter Skinner wrote:

>
>Are you using the same book for both programs? If so, that could be causing >your troubles. Always use separate books.

yes, i also had problems when i used the same book in a tourn
with different engines, and also noticed strange things
with the Swiss pairing when one engine had a bye;
the tourn simply stopped.

well yes i know this is not the Arena forum but i liked
to see if other people had similar problems with Arena 1.1
Obviously Arena can have some bugs; every program can,
Winboard had bugs for *years*; no big deal.
But it's programmer arrogance to call every
bug a user mistake or misunderstanding,
as Conkie seems to imply.

>Are you sure you are using the correct
>parameters for Shredder? Is it using the correct amount of hash?

yes it is not a hash problem. but it might be a book problem, when
i use a small selfmade book as engine book for Shredder, and
not an Arena 'mainbook', i often get problems on ICC,
especially against Symbolic (who has a large book and
plays the book moves fast; after that Shredder won't
start, Symbolic has no-escape activated, and that
has costed me many points); yes i will experiment
with some other settings, the book by Harry Schnapps
isn't bad, it's not perfect either but who cares.
>
>
>If you want to use a UCI engine with Winboard, set it up with Polygot and you
>will have little problems.. unless you use the same book for both programs.

yes i am thinking  to switch to the Polyglot protocol;
if i wont be able to solve my Arena problems.
>
i do like the Arena interface, the way the book maker
is set up is nice and simple but obviously the
program isn't idiot proof yet (as a good program
has to be, as any professional IT person knows,
except some nerdy hacker type kides who think
they smarter than the rest of the universe as they
happened to be able in programming a chess engine; no
need to call names here if you know what i mean)

JEf



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