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Subject: Re: Commercial program shouldn't suppport any engine protocols

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 09:19:11 07/05/05

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On July 05, 2005 at 12:17:27, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On July 05, 2005 at 08:41:25, Madhavan wrote:
>
>>Its better to release a standalone engine with its own GUI,when a programmer
>>gives protocol support for engines,his programming economy decreases.
>
>Utter nonesense.
>
>>It's either of 2 reasons,programmer will obtain less amount or testers do tests
>>reporting result and detecting bugs.
>
>Utter nonesense.
>
>>player 'd too become a tester,sometimes he gets bored always being engine's
>>victim.
>
>Almost all tests are engine verses engine.  People who get bored getting bashed
>by a machine will not suddenly become enthralled because you put a new face on
>it.
>
>>I'd like to know if there are anyone who play chess with chessbase and who don't
>>test engines?
>
>I do.

Let me ammend that, I do both.  Of course, the programs knock my brains out.
Believe it or not, I still enjoy it.

>>I happen to know that there are many people out there who dont know what's
>>computer chess or that computer program can play with another program by
>>protocol.that would be chessmaster buyers.
>
>I know "what's computer chess" and that a computer can play another program.
>I own chessmaster (I have bought many versions).
>Therefore, your foundation is false.
>
>>Ironically if you ask someone "do you know Deep Junior"? "Shredder"?
>>probable answer is "I don't know,what it it?"
>
>Is there a point in that statement somewhere?
>
>>If you ask some CD buyers "Do you know chessmaster"
>>most probably the response from them would turn out to be positive
>
>Well, you can get ChessMaster at the local Fred Meyers or Circuit City.  You
>won't find Shredder or Deep Junior there.  So the result is entirely
>unsurprising.  Clearly, the sales of ChessMaster are far more than all the
>others put together.
>
>>you bet.
>>
>>Do you agree with the idea of releasing chess program that should come with its
>>own GUI?
>
>Do you agree that reinventing the wheel when there are already Ferraris running
>up and down the street is a bad idea?
>
>>so.is vincent planning to exactly do this?or also Bruce?may be.
>
>Bruce and Vincent have both written their own GUI.
>
>>having more chess GUI's seems to be interesting,we have enough chess
>>engines.
>
>That's like saying "We have enough money.  No need for some more."
>
>>what do you expect to have?many chess engine,some clones can be
>>detected.
>
>What is the point of the above fragment?
>
>>I don't understand why anyone would reject this idea?
>
>Because it is a bad idea.  Writing a GUI is much harder than writing a chess
>engine (a good one, that is).
>
>That is why we have 350 chess engines and 35 GUIs.  The GUI is ten times as hard
>to write.
>
>I think a far, far better idea than to write new GUIs is to improve existing
>ones.
>
>Jose, Winboard, and Scid are public projects.  Any of those would be a good
>place to start.



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