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Subject: Re: Good Test Move...?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 17:35:39 07/05/05

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On July 05, 2005 at 19:01:52, John Merlino wrote:

>On July 05, 2005 at 18:24:18, Rob Basham wrote:
>
>>[D]q1r1r1k1/pb1nbp1p/1p1ppnp1/6N1/2PP4/1P1B2N1/PB2QPPP/2R1R1K1 w - - 0 1
>>
>>Some of my dedicated machines actually find Nxf7,
>>but I am not sure how good it is....etc.
>>
>>Rob
>
>CM9_R1 on an AMD 2500 needs 0:52 to settle on the move -- but the score isn't
>very convincing and The King gives up the idea after a little more than four
>minutes:
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:00	1/3	1.25	1631		1.Nxf7 Kxf7 2.Qxe6+ Kf8 3.d5 Ne5
>					4.Bxe5 dxe5 5.Rxe5
>0:00	1/4	1.25	4323		1.Nxf7 Kxf7 2.Qxe6+ Kf8 3.d5 Ne5
>					4.Bxe5 dxe5 5.Rxe5
>0:00	1/5	0.88	26764		1.Nxf7 Kxf7 2.Qxe6+ Kf8 3.Bf1 Rc7
>					4.Ba3
>0:00	1/5	1.02	41842		1.f3 d5 2.Qd2 Bd6 3.Nh3
>0:00	1/6	1.03	105233		1.f3 d5 2.Qd2 Bd6 3.Nh3 Qb8
>0:01	1/7	0.63	300586		1.f3 d5 2.Qd2 Bd6 3.Nh3 Qb8 4.Nf1
>					Nh5
>0:05	1/7	0.74	1157106		1.Bb1 d5 2.cxd5 Bxd5 3.N5e4 Bb4
>					4.Rxc8 Rxc8
>0:09	1/8	0.71	1918603		1.Bb1 Bf8 2.f3 d5 3.Nh3 Bb4 4.Bc3
>					Bd6 5.Bd2
>0:25	1/9	0.51	5675129		1.Bb1 Bf8 2.f3 d5 3.Qd2 Qb8 4.Nh3
>					Bd6 5.Nf1 Nh5
>0:52	1/9	0.79	12243269	1.Nxf7 Kxf7 2.Qxe6+ Kg7 3.d5 Ne5
>					4.Ne4 Nxe4 5.Bxe4 Bf8 6.Qd7+ Kg8
>1:08	1/10	0.73	16115468	1.Nxf7 Kxf7 2.Qxe6+ Kg7 3.d5 Ne5
>					4.Ne4 Nxd3 5.Bxf6+ Bxf6 6.Qxf6+
>					Kg8 7.Ng5 Rxe1+ 8.Rxe1 Rf8
>3:15	1/11	0.40	48516270	1.Nxf7 Kxf7 2.Qxe6+ Kg7 3.d5 Ne5
>					4.Rxe5 dxe5 5.Qxe5 Bxd5 6.Qg5 Kf7
>					7.cxd5 Rxc1+ 8.Bxc1 Qxd5
>4:02	1/11	0.56	58824614	1.Qe3 d5 2.Qf4 Bb4 3.Re2 dxc4 4.bxc4
>					Bxg2 5.f3 h6 6.Kxg2 hxg5 7.Qxg5
>
>jm

I am guessing that this is one of those positions that needs to be analyzed all
night to get a good idea, and by several strong engines.

This is the game:

[Event "It"]
[Site "Berlin GER"]
[Date "1926.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Colle, Edgard"]
[Black "Gruenfeld, Ernst F"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A47"]
[Annotator ""]
[Source ""]
[Remark ""]

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 e6 3.e3 b6 4.Bd3 Bb7 5.Nbd2 c5 6.O-O Be7 7.b3 cxd4 8.exd4
d6 9.Bb2 Nbd7 10.c4 O-O 11.Rc1 Re8 12.Re1 Qc7 13.Qe2 Rac8 14.Nf1 Qb8 15.
Ng3 Qa8 16.Ng5 g6 17.Nxf7 Kxf7 18.Qxe6+ Kg7 19.d5 Nc5 20.Nf5+ Kf8 21.Qe3
gxf5 22.Qh6+ Kf7 23.Bxf5 Bxd5 24.Rxe7+ Rxe7 25.Qxf6+ Ke8 26.Qh8+ Kf7 27.
Bxc8 1-0

Shredder says:
Analysis from E:\unsure.epd
7/5/2005 5:14:15 PM Level: 999 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Shredder9UCI

1)
    Avoid move:
    Best move (Shredder9UCI): Qe2-e3
    Not found in: 16:39
     2/7-	00:00	          86	306	+0.42	d4d5 e6xd5
     2/7	00:00	         120	427	+0.42	d4d5 Nf6xd5
     2/8+	00:00	         196	659	+0.78	Ng3e4
     2/8	00:00	         242	775	+0.90	Ng3e4 Nf6xe4 Ng5xe4
     2/8+	00:00	         293	893	+0.92	f2f3
     2/8	00:00	         342	1.042	+1.02	f2f3 Nf6g4
     3/10	00:00	         877	2.549	+1.04	f2f3 h7h6 Ng5h3
     4/10	00:00	       3.746	9.989	+1.03	f2f3 d6d5 Qe2e3 Qa8b8
     5/15	00:00	       9.140	22.512	+0.92	f2f3 d6d5 a2a3 Qa8b8
     6/14	00:00	      22.333	49.300	+0.96	f2f3 d6d5 a2a3 Qa8b8 Qe2e3 d5xc4
     7/20	00:00	      71.979	124.531	+0.75	f2f3 d6d5 Bb2c3 Qa8b8 c4xd5
     8/22	00:01	     231.000	234.756	+0.73	f2f3 d6d5 Qe2e3 Qa8b8 Rc1a1 Qb8c7
a2a3 d5xc4
     9/23	00:01	     489.029	303.933	+0.78	f2f3 d6d5 Qe2d2 Qa8b8 Ng5h3 Be7d6
Qd2g5 Qb8c7 Qg5h4
    10/26	00:02	     813.611	340.280	+0.67	f2f3 d6d5 Bb2c3 Qa8b8 Bc3d2 d5xc4
b3xc4 Qb8d6 Qe2e3 Re8d8 Qe3f4
    10/28+	00:03	   1.281.909	369.532	+0.68	Bb2a3
    10/28	00:03	   1.303.251	367.423	+0.68	Bb2a3 e6e5 f2f3 e5xd4 Qe2b2 h7h6
    11/24-	00:05	   1.969.631	383.122	+0.43	Bb2a3 e6e5
    11/28	00:06	   2.322.654	389.119	+0.21	Bb2a3 e6e5 f2f3 Nf6h5 Qe2d2 Nh5xg3
h2xg3 e5xd4 Qd2f4 Be7xg5 Qf4xg5 Nd7e5
    11/28+	00:06	   2.332.370	388.728	+0.22	f2f3
    11/28+	00:06	   2.392.221	387.592	+0.57	f2f3
    11/29	00:06	   2.613.348	389.877	+0.57	f2f3 d6d5 Bb2c3 Nf6h5
    11/29+	00:09	   3.809.342	400.309	+0.58	Qe2d2
    11/30	00:10	   4.102.308	402.700	+0.58	Qe2d2 Bb7xg2
    12/30	00:13	   5.479.623	407.316	+0.64	Qe2d2 d6d5 f2f3 Be7d6 Ng5h3 e6e5
Qd2g5 e5e4 f3xe4 d5xe4 Bd3c2 e4e3 d4d5
    13/36-	00:21	   8.862.662	424.233	+0.39	Qe2d2 d6d5
    13/36	00:21	   9.247.154	426.391	+0.39	Qe2d2 Bb7xg2 d4d5 e6xd5 f2f3
    13/36+	00:23	  10.060.664	427.549	+0.40	Bb2a3
    13/36	00:26	  11.478.369	428.601	+0.41	Bb2a3 h7h6 Ng5e4 d6d5 Ne4xf6+ Be7xf6
Qe2d2 d5xc4
    13/36+	00:29	  12.375.703	429.056	+0.42	f2f3
    13/36	00:30	  12.753.048	428.227	+0.65	f2f3 d6d5 Qe2d2 Be7d6 Ng5h3 e6e5
Qd2g5 e5e4 f3xe4 Nf6xe4 Bd3xe4 d5xe4 Ng3f5 f7f6 Qg5g4
    14/34	00:41	  17.782.590	426.410	+0.65	f2f3 d6d5 Qe2d2 Be7d6 Ng5h3 e6e5
Qd2g5 Qa8b8 Ng3f5 e5xd4 Nf5xd6 Qb8xd6 Bb2xd4 d5xc4
    14/34+	00:54	  23.211.757	427.622	+0.66	Qe2e3
    14/34	00:56	  24.162.595	428.247	+0.73	Qe2e3 d6d5 Qe3f4 Be7b4 Re1e2 h7h6
Ng5xf7 Kg8xf7 Qf4xh6 Nd7f8 f2f3 Qa8b8 Re2e5
    15/32	01:09	  29.753.581	431.405	+0.70	Qe2e3 d6d5 Qe3f4 Be7b4 Re1e2 h7h6
Ng5xf7 Kg8xf7 Qf4xh6 Nd7f8 f2f3 Qa8b8 Re2e5 Qb8d6
    16/40	01:44	  45.677.026	437.888	+0.69	Qe2e3 d6d5 Qe3f4 Be7b4 Re1e2 h7h6
Ng5xf7 Kg8xf7 Qf4xh6 Nd7f8 f2f3 Qa8b8 Re2e5 Qb8d6
    17/43	02:56	  78.685.295	445.571	+0.83	Qe2e3 d6d5 Qe3f4 Be7b4 Re1e2 Bb4f8
c4xd5
    18/43	05:24	 144.062.252	444.315	+0.59	Qe2e3 d6d5 Qe3f4 Be7b4 Re1e2 h7h6
Ng5xf7 Kg8xf7 Qf4xh6 Nd7f8 f2f3 Qa8b8 Re2e5 Qb8d6 Ng3e2
   7/5/2005 5:30:58 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:16:39, Rated time: 16:39

0 of 1 matching moves
7/5/2005 5:30:58 PM, Total time: 12:16:43 AM
Rated time: 16:39 = 999 Seconds




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