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Subject: Re: Novag Dedicated -- Was: Maybe Ehlvest vs wristwatch match?

Author: Steve B

Date: 04:05:35 07/07/05

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>especially for humans since Kittinger creations rather tend to stirr things up
>on the board (which is more interesting anyway).

its funny you mention this
personally from all of the programers of the old computers i always prefered
Kittinger's style
i agree his programs were very active and much fun to play against
more so then the slow ,sac a pawn.. for position play of Lang and even our dear
Ed Shroeder


>
>Another remark re the SSDF list: Although I know that most people consider it
>the non plus ultra, I believe the more interesting benchmark are Elo lists for
>shorter time controls, i.e. 30s/move. The reason is quite simple: most people
>very likely use their computer for short games. Or when did you play the last
>tournament game against a dedicated unit? ;)
>
well 30 sec a move is interesting to know but the longer time controls are also
important to see because it will give us an indication how strong the computer
is under normal tournament conditions ...
i could not imagine testing a computer only under active time controls and not
the tournament controls

as for a tournament level game..the last one i played was a little over  two
years ago
:)
i played the R40 when i first received it
i had white
i lost so badly, that to this day i have a love/hate relationship with it every
time i take it out of its hidden storage place in my vaults





>>this is so sad i think
>>can you imagine devoting your life to chess and knowing that you can perhaps
>>beat a PDA..maybe?
>
>Well not much better than devoting your life to the Tour de France and
>permanently being slower that all those motorbikes... ;)

:))
its different i think

these are physical tests of endurance
man was never the fastest or strongest species on earth

but chess was considered a thinking game
i  do not consider the now certain dominance of the dreaded PC silicon deformed
monster in chess  as a blow to mankind so much as a blow to the game of chess

in the future how interesting is it to watch two humans play,when in the
backround computers are annotating each move showing all of the mistakes move by
move?

it makes the game bewteen the humans look rediculous ..at least for me

like watching two monkeys in a cage trying to figure out how to work a bell with
a button to press


>On the oter hand I find it astonishing that humans can
>build machines (dedicated chess computers) which are capable of calculating 200
>million nodes in a second...

perhaps
but building machines is not something i watch or follow for enjoyment and
relaxation

i could also watch two computers in my office solve 1000 mathematical
computations and wager on who will be the first to solve it
:))


let them build computers to solve the problems of cancer and world hunger or
even terrorism and let them leave chess and other games alone


Luddite Regards
Steve





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