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Subject: Re: Human pattern recongnition still superior

Author: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo

Date: 06:54:00 07/08/05

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Good Morning Uri.
I am agreed.
Best regard,
Pablo

On July 08, 2005 at 05:58:30, Uri Blass wrote:

>On July 07, 2005 at 23:30:38, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote:
>
>>Shredder 9.02 UCI: 17.1 ply; 478kN/s  AuthenticAMD 2167MHz, (1 threads)
>>
>>What about that?
>>
>>I am not a master,not tittle player, not federation, not publication, just
>>playing for fun, as a hobby player,  and as a  simple amateur.
>
>Shredder blundered
>
>Here is example for one of shredder's mistakes but it was probably too late to
>win the game at that point.
>
>It seems that fruit has evaluation of open files when shredder does not have it.
>
>Father - Pizza Margherita, Rated game, 15m + 0s 2005
>[D]2r5/4k2r/3bp3/1p1p1p2/p1pP1Ppp/P1P1P1P1/1P2R2P/4BRK1 b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Fruit 2.1:
>
>28...hxg3 29.hxg3
>  µ  (-1.07)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>28...hxg3 29.hxg3 Kf6
>  µ  (-1.33)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>28...hxg3 29.hxg3 Kf6 30.Bd2
>  µ  (-1.11)   Depth: 3/8   00:00:00
>28...hxg3 29.Bxg3 Kf6 30.Kg2 Kg6
>  µ  (-1.27)   Depth: 4/12   00:00:00
>28...hxg3 29.Bxg3 Kf6 30.Kg2 Kg6 31.Rd2
>  µ  (-1.24)   Depth: 5/12   00:00:00
>28...hxg3 29.Bxg3 Kf6 30.Kg2 Kg6 31.Rd2 Kf6
>  µ  (-1.22)   Depth: 6/14   00:00:00  8kN
>28...hxg3 29.Bxg3 Kf7 30.Kg2 Kf6 31.Rd2 Kg6 32.Rg1
>  µ  (-1.21)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00  22kN
>28...hxg3 29.Bxg3 Kf7 30.Kg2 Kg6 31.Rd2 Ra8 32.Rg1 Rc8
>  µ  (-1.21)   Depth: 8/15   00:00:00  34kN
>28...hxg3 29.Bxg3 Kd7 30.Kg2 Kc6 31.Rd2 Kb6 32.Rg1 Rg8 33.Rf1
>  µ  (-1.23)   Depth: 9/20   00:00:01  83kN
>28...hxg3 29.Bxg3 Kf6 30.Kg2 Kg6 31.Rd2 Ra8 32.Rg1 Kf6 33.Rf1 Rc8
>  µ  (-1.22)   Depth: 10/20   00:00:01  150kN
>28...hxg3 29.Bxg3 Kf6 30.Kg2 Rch8 31.Rd2 Ra8 32.Rg1 Rc8 33.Rf1 Kg6 34.Rg1
>  µ  (-1.21)   Depth: 11/20   00:00:01  278kN
>28...hxg3 29.Bxg3 Kd7 30.Kg2 Kc6 31.Rh1 Rch8 32.Rg1 Rg8 33.Rc2 Kb6 34.Rd2 Rc8
>  µ  (-1.21)   Depth: 12/20   00:00:01  581kN
>28...hxg3 29.Bxg3 Kd7 30.Kg2 Kc6 31.Rh1 Rch8 32.Rg1 Rg8 33.Rc2 Kb6 34.Re2 Rc8
>35.Rd2
>  µ  (-1.21)   Depth: 13/25   00:00:01  891kN
>28...hxg3 29.Bxg3 Kd7 30.Kg2 Kc6 31.Rh1 Rch8 32.Rg1 Rg8 33.Rc2 Kb6 34.Re2 Ra8
>35.Rd2 Rc8
>  µ  (-1.21)   Depth: 14/25   00:00:01  1462kN
>28...hxg3 29.hxg3 Rch8 30.Rg2 Kf6 31.Kf2 Rh2 32.Rfg1 R2h3 33.Bd2 R3h6 34.Ke2
>R6h7 35.Kf2 Kg6 36.Rd1
>  µ  (-1.16)   Depth: 15/30   00:00:04  5781kN
>28...hxg3 29.hxg3 Rch8 30.Rg2 Kf6 31.Kf2 Rh2 32.Rfg1 R2h3 33.Ke2 R3h7 34.Bd2 Kg6
>35.Rf1 Rh2 36.Rxh2 Rxh2+ 37.Rf2
>  µ  (-1.14)   Depth: 16/30   00:00:07  9413kN
>28...hxg3 29.hxg3 Rch8 30.Rg2 Kf6 31.Kf2 Rh2 32.Rfg1 R2h3 33.Ke2 Kg7 34.Bf2 R3h7
>35.Rf1 Kf6 36.Rc1 Kg6 37.Rd1
>  µ  (-1.14)   Depth: 17/35   00:00:11  14593kN
>28...hxg3 29.hxg3 Rch8 30.Rg2 Kf6 31.Kf2 Rh2 32.Rfg1 R2h3 33.Ke2 Kg7 34.Bf2 R3h7
>35.Rf1 Kf6 36.Be1 Rh6 37.Bf2 Rh3
>  µ  (-1.14)   Depth: 18/37   00:00:17  23833kN
>28...hxg3 29.hxg3 Rch8 30.Rg2 Kf6 31.Kf2 Rh2 32.Rfg1 R2h3 33.Ke2 Kg7 34.Bf2 R3h7
>35.Rf1 Kg6 36.Be1 Rh3 37.Bd2 Rh2 38.Rxh2 Rxh2+ 39.Rf2
>  µ  (-1.14)   Depth: 19/39   00:00:27  36804kN
>28...hxg3 29.hxg3 Rch8 30.Rg2 Kf6 31.Kf2 Rh2 32.Rfg1 R2h3 33.Ke2 Kg7 34.Bf2 R3h7
>35.Rf1 Kg6 36.Be1 Kf7 37.Bd2 Rh2 38.Rxh2 Rxh2+ 39.Rf2
>  µ  (-1.14)   Depth: 20/43   00:00:41  56177kN
>28...hxg3 29.hxg3 Rch8 30.Rg2 Kf6 31.Kf2 Rh2 32.Rfg1 R2h3 33.Ke2 Kg7 34.Bf2 R3h7
>35.Rf1 Kf6 36.Rd1 Rh3 37.Ra1 Kg6 38.Rag1 R3h7 39.Rd1
>  µ  (-1.14)   Depth: 21/45   00:01:09  93135kN
>
>(,  08.07.2005)
>
>Fruit after h3 gives only 0.71 pawns for black and it suggest that fruit's
>evaluation is better than Shredder.
>
>Another test position when Fruit also fails is the following position
>
>
>[D]2r4r/4kp1p/3bp3/1p1p2p1/p1pP1P2/P1P1P1P1/RP1B3P/R5K1 b - - 0 1
>
>I think that g4 is a blunder.
>
>Uri



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