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Subject: Re: Welcome to testing engines. Thx to Anthony

Author: Arturo Ochoa

Date: 07:33:37 07/11/05

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On July 11, 2005 at 02:38:48, enrico carrisco wrote:

>On July 11, 2005 at 00:37:25, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>
>>On July 11, 2005 at 00:33:02, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote:
>>
>>>Hello Anthony
>>>
>>>Thanks Anthony for your post.
>>>You are welcome all the time that you want to test your engine with me.
>>> Just tell to me.
>>>
>>>It is a good idea to rest.
>>> Many time I am very tired too.
>>>
>>>Good luck with your P.H.D., just a few people in the Earth have that kind of
>>>oportunity, and it is really very important.
>>>
>>>Congratullation for Zappa Job, I hope Zappa and you all the time will be
>>>climbing for the Top.
>>>
>>>Zappa is your Job, all the engines has been made for the humans beings. The
>>>combat it is just between humans.
>>>
>>>CCC is not a bad place. Why are you going to live ? It is a good idea to learn
>>>many things here.
>>>
>>>Forget the match against me.
>>>
>>> I am very tired too, and finally in my life I have played many many games,
>>>against Top engines.
>>>
>>>I have not more for learn, my job have been done yet.
>>>
>>>Good luck, and thanks again !!
>>>
>>>Best regard,
>>>
>>>Pablo
>>>
>>
>>Supongo que después de estar 7 días acabando con la paciencia en este Foro,
>>debes estar muy cansado de trabajo tan útil. :)))
>>
>>Después molestar tanto, ahora sueltas alguna palabras amables. Se parece a la
>>historia del esposo que golpea a su esposa y a la mañana siguiente le dice que
>>eso no sucederá de nuevo. Bueno, ojo con eso, quien sabe de donde te vienene
>>esos "arranques"....
>
>Desde mi punto de vista me parece que ustedes se estan insultando de igual
>manera. Solo porque Pablo no sea un jugador reconocido en ajedrez no significa
>que su estilo de jugar no tenga validez.
>

Greetings, Enrico: Nice to meet you here!

He began with all this flaming. We are patient but our patience has a limit.

Again, claiming that a "theory" is valid using blitz games on a chess server
cannot be considered serious. For fun is Ok. The other directions that he took
with Zappa was not pleasant. We are humans. Anthony tried to ignore him but the
continuos attacks went too far. Now, that he has flamed a lot, you cannot expect
a peaceful answer.

He offered his "strong" arguments but I offered my own arguments in the same
rude form that he posted.

>Antonio dijo que es una perdida de tiempo jugar con Pablo, pero yo digo que el
>estar insultandose y discutiendo el uno al otro por siete dias. Entonces por que
>no jugar y probar su punto de discusion?

After attacking in that way, after claming a "perfect theory" again and again
without considering valida conditions: live game, slow time controls, etc., I
have not seen any slow game of this Mr. Restrepo.


>
>"Zappa tiene una version desde 1.0 para jugar ajedrez mucho mejor."  -- bien.
>"Zappa esta utilizando 4 CPUs lo cual lo hace mucho mas fuertes de los que Pablo
>ha jugado." -- bien.
>
>Que tienes que perder?  Juega con el...
>

There only one thing that Anothony has to loose: his valuable time. I suggesated
him not to reply the nonsense about this matter here and close this Forum for a
while he prepares for WCCC2005.

Regards, Arturo Ochoa M.


>Atentamente,
>
>-elc.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>On July 10, 2005 at 23:44:08, Zappa wrote:
>>>
>>>>>ideas. .......... Now, Anthony when you answer to Fernando you tell
>>>>>there,....... "Pablo asked for a match, I declined, and then ..............“he
>>>>>spends 5 hours bitching at the ICC live broadcast” about how I'm ducking him.
>>>>>That is why I'm so annoyed."
>>>>>
>>>>>Anthony........... This is absolute false.!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not in ICC; I want to be sincere. I don’t like ICC.
>>>>>
>>>>>ICC in my last account banned to me, because I was playing antichess, my own
>>>>>style, and beating engines!! type Pablo-Restrepo, Mar 16-2005/2011.
>>>>
>>>>In that case, it was my error, and I apologize.  Let me try to explain why I am
>>>>not going to play you in a match.
>>>>
>>>>First, I really just don't care about your anti-computer style.  This may seem
>>>>harsh, but I am writing Zappa to beat top GMs and top computers.  If there are
>>>>some positions it doesn't understand where a 2200 player can get 1.0 / 10.0
>>>>instead of 0.0 / 10.0 against it, I can live with that.  I just don't find it
>>>>interesting to bugfix those positions.  I know how to fix them:  Crafty (which
>>>>is really one of the better anti-human programs) has blocked pawn code &&
>>>>eightpawns code.  It works.  I just don't care.
>>>>
>>>>Secondly, by your own admission you play every game to draw.  I very much doubt
>>>>you could score more than 15-20% against Zappa.  What kind of a match is that?
>>>>Zappa wins 8 - 2, and suddenly your fanboys cry: "oh, what an awesome game by
>>>>the anti-computer expert, he got 4 draws out of 10 games".  I mean, it just
>>>>isn't an interesting match.  And when I win by 8 - 2, what I have I proved?
>>>>That is why I say I have nothing to gain, and only a lot of time and CPU cycles
>>>>to waste.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway I am not going to log on to ANY internet chess servers for a while.  I am
>>>>getting real tired of the assholes that inhabit them.  I know 99% of the people
>>>>are decent, but the 1% do all the talking.  I hope I have explained why I'm not
>>>>interested in playing a match with you, and I apologize about insulting you
>>>>under false pretenses.  You will just have to download Zappa 1.0 and beat up on
>>>>it to your hearts content.
>>>>
>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>>Anthony Cozzie



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