Author: Uri Blass
Date: 08:04:14 07/12/05
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On July 12, 2005 at 10:58:51, Uri Blass wrote: >On July 12, 2005 at 10:45:43, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On July 12, 2005 at 09:04:37, George Tsavdaris wrote: >> >>>At move 23 of game 1, Shredder 9 played the amazing 23.g4!! with a high positive >>>score....... >>>A truly surprise move in my opinion, but logical if you think about it and only >>>when you see it afterwards, as it happens all the time........ >>>Fritz 8.00.8 that i tried, finds it very quickly! Any other.....? >>> >>>[D]3rk2r/3nbppp/1pB1pn2/pP6/P1P5/2N3P1/1B3P1P/R2R2K1 w k - 0 23 >> >>Shredder9 has another move in my analysis Ne2 with evaluation of more than +1(I >>think that I started with 2 options and reduced it to 1) >> >>New game, >>[D]3rk2r/3nbppp/1pB1pn2/pP6/P1P5/2N3P1/1B3P1P/R2R2K1 w k - 0 1 >> >>Analysis by Shredder 9 UCI: >> >>1.Rxd7 >> ² (0.50) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00 >>1.Rxd7 >> -+ (-2.29) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00 >>1.Rxd7 >> = (0.09) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00 >>1.Bxd7+ >> = (0.24) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00 >>1.Bxd7+ Rxd7 >> ² (0.57) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00 >>1.Bc1 0-0 2.Bf4 e5 3.Bg5 Nc5 4.Kg2 Rd4 5.Re1 Bd6 >> ² (0.58) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00 >>1.Bc1 0-0 2.Bf4 e5 3.Bg5 Nc5 4.Kg2 Rd4 5.Re1 Bd6 >> ² (0.58) Depth: 1/10 00:00:00 >>1.Bc1 0-0 2.Bf4 e5 3.Bg5 Nc5 4.Kg2 Rd4 5.Re1 Bd6 >> ² (0.58) Depth: 2/10 00:00:00 >>1.Bc1 0-0 2.Bf4 e5 3.Bg5 Nc5 4.Kg2 Rd4 5.Re1 Bd6 >> ² (0.58) Depth: 3/10 00:00:00 >>1.Bc1 0-0 2.Bf4 e5 3.Bg5 Nc5 4.Kg2 Rd4 5.Re1 Bd6 >> ² (0.58) Depth: 4/10 00:00:00 >>1.Bc1 0-0 2.Bf4 e5 3.Bg5 Nc5 4.Kg2 Rd4 5.Re1 Bd6 >> ² (0.58) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00 >>1.Bc1 0-0 2.Bf4 e5 3.Bg5 Nc5 4.Kg2 Rd4 5.Re1 Bd6 >> ² (0.58) Depth: 6/10 00:00:00 1kN >>1.Bc1 0-0 2.Bf4 e5 3.Bg5 Nc5 4.Kg2 Rd4 5.Re1 Bd6 >> ² (0.58) Depth: 7/10 00:00:00 2kN >>1.Bc1 0-0 2.Bf4 e5 3.Bg5 Nc5 4.Kg2 Rd4 5.Re1 Bd6 >> ² (0.58) Depth: 8/10 00:00:00 4kN >>1.Bc1 0-0 2.Bf4 e5 3.Bg5 Nc5 4.Kg2 Rd4 5.Re1 Bd6 >> ² (0.58) Depth: 9/10 00:00:01 7kN >>1.Bc1 0-0 2.Bf4 e5 3.Bg5 Nc5 4.Kg2 Rd4 5.Re1 Bd6 >> ² (0.58) Depth: 10/10 00:00:02 12kN >>1.Bc1 0-0 >> ² (0.33) Depth: 11/20 00:00:03 162kN >>1.Bc1 0-0 2.Bf4 Bb4 3.Na2 Bc5 >> = (0.14) Depth: 11/20 00:00:04 262kN >>1.Kg2 >> = (0.15) Depth: 11/24 00:00:04 542kN >>1.Kg2 0-0 2.Ne2 Nc5 3.Bd4 Nfd7 4.f3 Bf6 5.Bxd7 Bxd4 >> ² (0.32) Depth: 11/24 00:00:04 601kN >>1.f4 >> ² (0.33) Depth: 11/24 00:00:04 888kN >>1.f4 0-0 2.Ne4 Nxe4 3.Bxe4 Nc5 4.Bc2 Bf6 5.Bxf6 gxf6 6.Kf2 f5 7.Rac1 >> ² (0.34) Depth: 11/24 00:00:05 932kN >>1.Rd4 >> ² (0.35) Depth: 11/24 00:00:05 999kN >>1.Rd4 0-0 2.Re1 Nc5 3.Red1 Rxd4 4.Rxd4 Rd8 5.Rxd8+ Bxd8 6.f3 Bc7 7.Kg2 Be5 >> ² (0.48) Depth: 11/24 00:00:05 1036kN >>1.Rd4 0-0 2.Re1 Nc5 3.Red1 Rxd4 4.Rxd4 Rd8 5.Rxd8+ Bxd8 6.f4 Be7 7.Kg2 >> ² (0.32) Depth: 12/24 00:00:05 1557kN >>1.Kg2 >> ² (0.33) Depth: 12/24 00:00:06 1814kN >>1.Kg2 0-0 2.Ne2 Nc5 3.Bd4 Nfd7 4.f4 Bf6 5.Bxd7 Bxd4 6.Nxd4 Rxd7 >> ² (0.33) Depth: 12/24 00:00:06 1889kN >>1.Kg2 0-0 2.Ne2 Nc5 3.Bd4 Nfd7 4.f4 Bf6 5.Bxd7 Bxd4 6.Rxd4 Rxd7 7.Rxd7 >> ² (0.39) Depth: 13/24 00:00:07 3452kN >>1.Rd4 >> ² (0.40) Depth: 13/29 00:00:07 3992kN >>1.Rd4 0-0 2.Re1 Nc5 3.Red1 Rxd4 4.Rxd4 Rd8 5.Rxd8+ Bxd8 6.f4 Be7 7.h3 >> ² (0.45) Depth: 13/31 00:00:07 4092kN >>1.Rd4 0-0 2.Re1 Bc5 3.Rd2 Nb8 4.Rxd8 Rxd8 5.Rd1 Nxc6 6.bxc6 Rc8 7.Nb5 Ng4 8.Na7 >>Bxf2+ 9.Kh1 Ne3 10.Rd7 >> ² (0.37) Depth: 14/31 00:00:11 6202kN >>1.Rd4 0-0 2.Rad1 Ne5 3.Rxd8 Rxd8 4.Nd5 Nf3+ 5.Kg2 exd5 6.Kxf3 dxc4 7.Rc1 Rd2 >>8.Bxf6 Bxf6 9.Rxc4 Bd4 >> = (0.25) Depth: 15/31 00:00:22 12265kN >>1.Kg2 >> ² (0.26) Depth: 15/31 00:00:28 16059kN >>1.Kg2 0-0 2.h3 Nc5 3.Ba3 g6 4.f4 Kg7 >> ² (0.30) Depth: 15/31 00:00:32 17958kN >>1.Ne2 >> ² (0.31) Depth: 15/31 00:00:37 20528kN >>1.Ne2 0-0 2.Bxd7 Rxd7 3.Bxf6 Rxd1+ 4.Rxd1 Bxf6 5.f4 Rc8 >> ² (0.44) Depth: 15/31 00:00:38 21547kN >>1.Ne2 0-0 2.Nd4 Bb4 3.Nb3 >> ² (0.67) Depth: 16/31 00:00:54 29921kN >>1.Ne2 0-0 2.Nd4 Nc5 3.Ba3 Bd6 4.Bxc5 Bxc5 5.Nb3 Bb4 6.c5 bxc5 7.Rdc1 Nd7 8.Bxd7 >>Rxd7 9.Nxc5 Rd6 10.Kg2 >> ² (0.66) Depth: 17/33 00:01:17 42426kN >>1.Ne2 0-0 2.Nd4 Bb4 3.Nb3 h6 4.Kg2 Ng4 >> ± (0.88) Depth: 18/33 00:02:10 69240kN >>1.Ne2 0-0 2.Nd4 Bb4 3.Nb3 h5 4.Kg2 h4 >> ± (1.01) Depth: 19/33 00:03:24 105737kN >>1.Ne2 0-0 2.Nd4 h6 3.Nb3 >> ± (1.03) Depth: 20/36 00:05:28 170887kN >> >>(, 12.07.2005) > >Shredder finds it only at depth 21 >1.g4 > ± (1.03) Depth: 21/43 00:12:48 396202kN > >Maybe with history of the game it is easier. > >Fruit can also find it and it simply was unlucky to be in the wrong side of the >board during the game. > > >New game, >[D]3rk2r/3nbppp/1pB1pn2/pP6/P1P5/2N3P1/1B3P1P/R2R2K1 w k - 0 1 > >Analysis by Fruit 2.1: > >1.Bxd7+ Rxd7 2.Kg2 > = (-0.24) Depth: 1/7 00:00:00 >1.Rab1 > ² (0.56) Depth: 1/7 00:00:00 >1.Rac1 > ² (0.57) Depth: 1/7 00:00:00 >1.Ra2 > ² (0.60) Depth: 1/7 00:00:00 >1.Rd2 > ² (0.69) Depth: 1/7 00:00:00 >1.Rd4 > ± (0.74) Depth: 1/7 00:00:00 >1.Ne4 > ± (0.79) Depth: 1/9 00:00:00 >1.Ne4 0-0 > ± (0.71) Depth: 2/10 00:00:00 >1.Ne4 0-0 2.Rd3 > ± (0.82) Depth: 3/13 00:00:00 >1.Ne4 0-0 2.Bd4 e5 3.Nxf6+ Bxf6 > ² (0.69) Depth: 4/14 00:00:00 >1.Ne4 Nxe4 2.Bxe4 Bf6 3.Ra2 Nc5 > ² (0.53) Depth: 5/14 00:00:00 >1.Rd4 e5 2.Rd3 Ng4 3.Re1 > ² (0.66) Depth: 5/14 00:00:00 >1.Rd4 e5 2.Rd3 h5 3.Nd5 Nxd5 4.cxd5 > ² (0.62) Depth: 6/15 00:00:00 27kN >1.Rd4 0-0 2.Rad1 Nc5 3.Ba3 Rxd4 4.Rxd4 Rc8 > ² (0.42) Depth: 7/21 00:00:00 84kN >1.Rd4 0-0 2.Rad1 Nc5 3.Rxd8 Rxd8 4.Rxd8+ Bxd8 5.Bc1 Bc7 6.Be3 > ² (0.34) Depth: 8/21 00:00:01 217kN >1.Bc1 0-0 2.Be3 Nc5 3.Bf3 Bd6 4.Rd2 h6 > ² (0.43) Depth: 8/21 00:00:01 394kN >1.Bc1 0-0 2.Bf4 e5 3.Be3 Nc5 4.Bf3 Rd6 5.Rxd6 Bxd6 > ² (0.38) Depth: 9/21 00:00:01 596kN >1.Bc1 0-0 2.Bf4 Bb4 3.Na2 e5 4.Be3 Nc5 5.Nxb4 axb4 6.Bxc5 bxc5 > = (0.17) Depth: 10/21 00:00:01 1257kN >1.Ne2 0-0 2.Nd4 Nc5 3.Bf3 Nfe4 4.Nc6 Rxd1+ 5.Rxd1 Bf6 6.Bxe4 Nxe4 7.Bxf6 Nxf6 > ² (0.33) Depth: 10/23 00:00:01 1818kN >1.Ne2 0-0 2.Kg2 Nc5 3.Bd4 Nfd7 4.Nf4 Bf6 5.Bxd7 Bxd4 6.Rxd4 Rxd7 7.Rxd7 Nxd7 > ² (0.28) Depth: 11/23 00:00:02 2874kN >1.Ne2 0-0 2.Kg2 Nc5 3.Bd4 Nfd7 4.Nf4 Bf6 5.Bxd7 Bxd4 6.Rxd4 Rxd7 7.Rxd7 Nxd7 > ² (0.28) Depth: 12/24 00:00:04 4895kN >1.Ne2 0-0 2.Kg2 Nc5 3.Bd4 g6 4.f4 Kg7 5.Ra3 Bd6 6.g4 Rh8 7.g5 > ² (0.30) Depth: 13/25 00:00:08 8951kN >1.Ne2 0-0 2.Kg2 Nc5 3.Bd4 g6 4.f4 Kg7 5.Ra3 Bd6 6.g4 e5 7.fxe5 Bxe5 > = (0.25) Depth: 14/28 00:00:18 20749kN >1.Ne2 0-0 2.Kg2 Nc5 3.Bd4 Nfd7 4.Nf4 Bg5 5.Bxd7 Nxd7 6.Be3 Bf6 7.Rab1 g5 8.Nh5 >Be7 > = (0.16) Depth: 15/30 00:00:42 49238kN >1.Ne4 Nxe4 2.Bxg7 Rg8 3.Bd4 Nec5 4.Bxc5 Bxc5 5.Rxd7 Rxd7 6.Rd1 Rg4 7.Rxd7 Kf8 >8.Bf3 Rxc4 9.Bh5 > ² (0.38) Depth: 15/30 00:00:52 61266kN >1.g4 h6 2.h4 g5 3.c5 0-0 4.Bxd7 Nxd7 5.hxg5 hxg5 6.c6 Ne5 7.Kg2 Nxg4 8.c7 Rc8 >9.Rd7 Bc5 > ² (0.50) Depth: 15/48 00:01:25 99934kN >1.g4 h6 2.h4 g5 3.c5 Bxc5 4.hxg5 hxg5 5.Nd5 Nxd5 6.Bxh8 Ke7 7.Bg7 N7f6 8.Bxf6+ >Kxf6 9.Rd3 Kg6 10.Bxd5 Rxd5 > ² (0.38) Depth: 16/48 00:01:56 134890kN >1.g4 h6 2.h4 g5 3.c5 Bxc5 4.hxg5 hxg5 5.Nd5 Nxd5 6.Bxh8 Ke7 7.Bg7 N7f6 8.Bxf6+ >Kxf6 9.Rd3 Bb4 10.Rc1 Rc8 > ² (0.49) Depth: 17/48 00:02:58 206993kN > >(, 12.07.2005) > >Uri Fruit can see higher score of +1.00 at depth 18 1.g4 h6 2.h4 Rg8 3.g5 Nh7 4.Rd3 hxg5 5.hxg5 Bxg5 6.Nd5 exd5 7.Re1+ Kf8 8.Rxd5 g6 9.Bd4 Bf6 10.Bxd7 Bxd4 11.Rxd4 ± (1.00) Depth: 18/54 00:08:08 555460kN (, 12.07.2005)
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