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Subject: Re: Answer : http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/chess2/diarytxt.htm

Author: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo

Date: 11:54:13 07/12/05

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On July 12, 2005 at 13:17:42, WAEL  DEEB wrote:

>Answer please....
>When are you goning to start beating the damn engines using long time controls
>with increment,not by using "stuiped winning on time and shuffeling the pieces
>all around" method!?

Answer.

Yes Wael.

The day thay engines to learn an to know how to play chess.
Time to work and time to Job for make a good opening book.
Best regard,
Pablo


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287. 23 May 2005: Father Knows Best (computers can't play chess, ct'd)

One of my first computer opponents, back in the early 80ties, was a certain
Chess Champion MK I. When I accidentally made an illegal move against it, it
simply played on, which gave me the idea to start with 1.Rh1xh8 in the next
game. Probably seeing its Ng8 was attacked, it played 1...Nf6 - a blunder, as
this allowed 2.Ng1xg7 mate. The champion acknowledged the mate; its window said:
LOSE. In the next game, I opened with 1.Bc1xe8, hoping to settle the question of
the shortest game forever. But Chess Champion MK I did not comply - it played
1...Qd8xe8, somehow leaving me without a plan.

Have they progressed much since then? Look at the 3-minute blitz game I won this
morning against Fritz 8 on my 2.4 GHz, 512 Mb RAM computer with hashtable size
192 Mb.

 TK - Fritz 8, 3 0 blitz, 23 May 2005
1.d4 Nf6 2.f4 d5 3.c3 Bf5 4.e3 Nbd7 (see diagram)
5.Qd3 TN
5...Bxd3 6.Bxd3 Ne4 7.Nf3 e6 8.O-O f5 9.Re1 Qf6 10.Re2 Be7 11.Bd2 O-O 12.Be1 Qh6
13.Nbd2 c5 14.Nf1 c4 15.Bc2 a5 16.Rc1 a4 17.a3 b5 18.Bb1 Qh5 19.Rcc2 Rab8 20.Rc1
Rbe8 21.Bc2 Qg4 22.Bd1 Rf7 23.Rcc2 Qh5 24.Bd2 Rf6 25.Be1 Rh6 26.Rc1 Qg4 27.Rcc2
Rf8 28.Rc1 Qg6 29.Rcc2 Rf7 30.Rc1 Qf6 31.Rcc2 Rf8 32.Rc1 Qf7 33.Rcc2 Qh5 34.Rc1
Qe8 35.Rcc2 Bd6 36.Rc1 Qe7 37.Rcc2 Qf6 38.Rc1 Qg6 39.Rcc2 Qg4 40.Rc1 Rb8 41.Rcc2
Be7 42.Rc1 Rd8 43.Rcc2 Rc8 44.Rc1 Rc7 45.Rcc2 Qg6 46.Rc1 Rc8 47.Rcc2 Rb8 48.Rc1
Rd8 49.Rcc2 Re8 50.g3 Rb8 51.Rg2 Rf8 52.Rc1 Bd6 53.Rcc2 Qh5 54.Rc1 Qe8 55.Rcc2
Ndf6 56.Rc1 Ng4 57.Rcc2 Qg6 58.Rc1 Rh3 59.Rcc2 Qh5 60.Rc1 Kh8 61.Rcc2 Qg6 62.Rc1
Be7 63.Rcc2 Qh6 64.Rc1 Kg8 65.Rcc2 Bf6 66.Rc1 Qg6 67.Rcc2 Be7 68.Rc1 Rf7 69.Rcc2
Bd6 70.Rc1 Qh5 71.Rcc2 Qh6 72.Rc1 Be7 73.Rcc2 Bf6 74.Rc1 Qg6 75.Rcc2 Bd8 76.Rc1
Bc7 77.Rcc2  Bb8 78.Rc1 Rf8 79.Rcc2 Qh6 80.Rc1 Rf6 81.Rcc2 Rf7 82.Rc1 Rd7
83.Rcc2 Bd6 84.Rc1 Qg6 85.Rcc2 Rd8 86.Rc1 Re8 87.Rcc2 Qh6 88.Rc1 Rf8 89.Rcc2 Rd8
90.Rc1 Be7 91.Rcc2 Bf6 92.Rc1 Qg6 93.Rcc2 Be7 94.Rc1 Rb8 95.Rcc2 Re8 96.Rc1 Bf6
97.Rcc2 Rc8 98.Rc1 h6 A keen eye for the 50-move draw rule. 99.Rcc2 Rf8 100.Rc1
Be7 101.Rcc2 Bd6 102.Rc1 Bc7 103.Rcc2 Qf7 104.Rc1 Bd6 105.Rcc2 Be7 106.Rc1 Re8
107.Rcc2 Qg6 108.Rc1 Bf6 109.Rcc2 Ra8 110.Rc1 Rb8 111.Rcc2 Be7 112.Rc1 Bd6
113.Rcc2 Rb7 114.Rc1 Rf7 115.Rcc2 Bc7 116.Rc1 Rd7 117.Rcc2 Bd6 118.Rc1 Rd8
119.Rcc2 Qh5 120.Rc1 Rf8 121.Rcc2 Bb8 122.Rc1 Bc7 123.Rcc2 Rf7 124.Rc1 Re7
125.Rcc2 Bd6 126.Rc1 Qg6 127.Rcc2 Rc7 128.Rc1 Rc8 129.Rcc2 Ra8 130.Rc1 Kh8
131.Rcc2 Rf8 132.Rc1 Be7 133.Rcc2
and in this completely winning position (see diagram), Fritz 8 overstepped the
time limit.

I did not invent this game myself. I just followed the strategy devised by Pablo
Restrepo, who used it under his handle Father in a 3 0 blitz game against an
anonymous computer named Elektrosmoker (Fritz 8?) on ChessBase's Playchess
server. Father won on time in 144 moves.
    This was picked up by Eduard Nemeth, a well-known computer-buster; see my
story Defending Humanity's Honor. He published the game and used the
Father-opening himself to beat Fritz 8 even in a 10-minute blitz game, in 142
moves - on time.
    And now I duplicated the Father Opening and the general strategy, too. I
must confess that my above win was only my third or fourth attempt, but that
does not matter - the point is that such a game can be played at all against a
computer which boasts a rating of 2752.

Related items in Open Chess Diary: 61, 114, 152 and 168.

Thanks to Jan Hondebrink for tipping me about the Father Opening.

 http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/chess2/diarytxt.htm




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