Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba
Date: 11:09:30 02/18/99
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On February 17, 1999 at 21:59:02, Lawrence S. Tamarkin wrote: >Ah, how nieve and truly hopefull the unknowing are about the Kamksky fanatics! >Gata & Da-da Kamsky were extremely secretive about their scoresheets, even when >they were in contractual signings with chess organizer's. They would confiscate >their scores and try to make it difficult for tournament helper's to take score >of their games. Da-da would even poke inicent people violently in the chest for >this 'unpardanable indiscretion', of anyone writing down his son's moves. > I did not know that, but that is not surprising from Rustam. I think that the only thing that prevented Gata Kamsky from becoming world champion was his fahter. >Before tournaments began (and after concluded too), they would negotiate with >interested parties (unfortanately some people will buy anything, if they think >they can assign fame to it), in buying their signed score-sheets for hundreds, >if not thousands of dollars. I bring this up to point out that it is extremely >unlikely that Gata ever played in a tournament like the Harvard cup, which only >offered a certain (& by their standards, inadaquet), up front amount to the >Grandmasters, and prizes way outside the Kamsky's often excorbitant demands for >their productions. > I do not think that Kamsky played in Aegon or in the Harvard Cup. I was wondering about the PCA Grand Prix and other events where some computers played, or perhaps some exhibition match. >And why do tournaments like Harvord cup or Aegon fail? - Because the hard >working organizer's and enthusiast finally come to relize that even the prizes >they can offer, minus their trivial directing and production fee's, (which the >GM's all too often don't take into account, when calculating their own rewards), >are nowhere neer enough worth it, to continue putting up with all this kind of >crap, for the amount of publicity and continued reward it offers them. A sad & >true reality, but that big companies never get interest enough in promoting >these event to continue them for more money, often because of the absurd >childish behavier of certain chess player's themselves... > >I suggest that you look at all the games, that are avialable played by strong >IM's & GM's from past human-computer tournaments. I don't need any Kamsky, to >be enthralled. I get an incredible amount of fun, playing through Rohde & >Fedorowicz Human-Computer games, among other's. > I have not looked at all the human-computer games available, but I have seen some. I asked about Kamsky because I think he is one af the greatest chess players ever, and I was curious. His early retirement is one of the big losses in the history of chess. >Also, you can very likely find games played in real time on the ICC, against >great programs, even though the human players will often keep their true >identity secret, even though the computers are well identified in their finger >notes... > >mrslug - the inkompetent chess software addict! > Thank you for your answer, José. > >On February 17, 1999 at 19:49:19, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote: > >>¿Did Gata Kamsky play in tournaments against computers? >>I am interested in any published game of GM Kamsky facing computers. >>Thanks in advance.
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