Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 03:30:18 07/17/05
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On July 17, 2005 at 06:15:23, Uri Blass wrote: >On July 17, 2005 at 05:22:47, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>I have been laughing a lot (maybe crying on the ignorance would have been more >>appropriate?)reading many wrong statements about testing and Elo lists. >> >>so, for those who are new and do not know, SSDF list is the best for the >>following reasons: >> >>1. They use 2 computers and the program complete with own book and ETG, with own >>gui and best setting as suggested by the programmer. >>2. They use long time controls (40/2h 20/1h; international level) only. >>3. They use the same hardware for all programs. >>4. They use a very wide range of programs and not only the new ones to get more >>reliable results. >>5. Ponder on and learning are activated. >> >>Now, even if some people do not agree, the use of own book is the best because >>that book has been developed specifically for that engine and in some cases the >>engine has been developed specifically on that book too. > >I think that in order to prove it you need to test programs also with different >book. I did. > >I do not know of these type of testing > >I do not know if Shredder with your book perform better than Shredder with >Fritz8.ctg >I do not know if Fritz with Fritz8.ctg performs better than Fritz with your >book. This is not important. Mine is a general statement and not related to Shredder. > > > This means that the use >>of a different book and the same for all programs would damage or favor some >>programs over others. > > >I think that a lot of people are interested in a different question. I believe only some people are, not the majority. The point is SSDF list is the best related to better to know if one program (complete program) is better than the previous one and how much. >The question which program is stronger in ssdf match is one question and the >question which program to analyze positions is a different question. Yes. > >using books and learning in tests does not help to decide which program is >better to use in overnight analysis. This is correct, but it is also true that some program may be better in some positions while worst in others, so it depends on the positions more than on the program. > >I prefer the CEGT rating list and not the ssdf rating list in decision which >programs to use in correspondence games. See above. > >The only advantage of the ssdf is longer time control but the CEGT has other >advantages like having more programs(Fruit was not tested in the ssdf list). This is only because they have not test it yet. I believe as soon as it will be released they will. > >Uri Sandro
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