Author: Thomas Mayer
Date: 02:47:36 07/18/05
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Hi Steven, > Sharing ICC noplay lists well, I do not care much about those cheaters. Just when I see some obvious things I put them on my noplay list. (Usually 7 day accounts...) Usually I remove them after a while. Some or stupid themself... So one did play always games like 120 180 or even longer... Well, I let him play... after a while he did ask me if we can agree to a draw, I said no and after some moves more he did resign... :) Anyway, when Quark plays on ICC I want to see it play - I do not care much about it's rating... Loosing against a cheater means anyway that there was something stronger then my own program so I had to look where things went wrong instead "is the opponent cheating". Greets, Thomas P.S.: So in my opinion you can either take a lot of time to identify cheaters, keeping your noplay list up to date etc. without any chance to get them all, or you can simply ignore it. IMO the second is best. > >Should authors and operators of computer program members on ICC (and on other >servers) share noplay lists? > >My current strategy against cheaters who hide computer play behind a human user >ID is to monitor Symbolic's log and manually enter the suspected cheater's ID >into its noplay list. But this takes time, both my time and the program's time. > I have to check the games, the ratings, the history, etc., and I suspect I an >duplicating work already done by other authors and operators. > >My proposal is to have a unified noplay list shared by all program authors. Its >entries would include all opponent IDs that had one or more of the following: > >1. A "!computer" in their formula. > >2. Repeated disconnects at a rate three or more sigma above the mean. > >3. Play 800 Elo points or more stronger against computer programs than against >humans. > >4. Exhibit obvious cheating; e.g., by playing perfect endgames in nontrivial >positions.
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