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Subject: Re: Sharing ICC noplay lists

Author: Mridul Muralidharan

Date: 03:44:23 07/18/05

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  I completely agree with what Thomas Mayer has posted below ... rating is just
a means to an end - I dont care for them.
I want to find weaknesses in my program and use ICC and similar clubs since most
opponents there are on more powerful hardware with better programs.

It also gives me a chance to talk to other authors (if they are also ob'ing the
game) or get comments from other strong players.

For the same , I dont put any formula (other than !wild I think) , or restrict
based on timecontrols.


- Mridul

On July 17, 2005 at 20:39:14, Steven Edwards wrote:

>Sharing ICC noplay lists
>
>Should authors and operators of computer program members on ICC (and on other
>servers) share noplay lists?
>
>My current strategy against cheaters who hide computer play behind a human user
>ID is to monitor Symbolic's log and manually enter the suspected cheater's ID
>into its noplay list.  But this takes time, both my time and the program's time.
> I have to check the games, the ratings, the history, etc., and I suspect I an
>duplicating work already done by other authors and operators.
>
>My proposal is to have a unified noplay list shared by all program authors.  Its
>entries would include all opponent IDs that had one or more of the following:
>
>1. A "!computer" in their formula.
>
>2. Repeated disconnects at a rate three or more sigma above the mean.
>
>3. Play 800 Elo points or more stronger against computer programs than against
>humans.
>
>4. Exhibit obvious cheating; e.g., by playing perfect endgames in nontrivial
>positions.



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