Author: Roger Brown
Date: 12:27:20 07/18/05
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On July 18, 2005 at 14:39:38, George Speight wrote: >To all those people out there running matches between Shredder 9 and Fruit- hope >i can save u some time and trouble. Regardless of any rating lists u see, and im >not sure about shredder 9, it is a statistical fact that by running thousands of >games between shredder 8, fritz 8 and Fruit 2.1, in the end they will line up as >follows: 1. shredder8 2. Fritz8 3. Fruit 2.1. Any other result, and u had >better check ur variables, because u are doing something wrong. Hello Goerge, A statistical fact, as against my biased opinion for instance, can be tested and subjected to rigorous proofs. Would you mind sharing the machines you used, the time controls you employed, the settings, the gui(s), one machine or two, ponder on or off, native books or generic and even some of the critical positions of the games? That would add content to your comments... > Kurt is right when he says 20 games doesnt tell alot. Actually statistical theory indicates that. Kurt just happens to agree with it. Dann Corbit has been preaching that theology for years now... >What does make fruit >2.1 so interesting is the fact that it is FREE. No. What makes Fruit interesting is that it is strong, well written and usable in a number of guis. It does not hurt that the programmer is a genuinely nice guy.... >I admit if it sold for $40 it >wouldnt have peaked my interest as much as it >does. But it just cant stay with >shredder 8 and fritz 8 in the long run. Ive >run over 5000 games, and it just >wont happen. Let me understand this, you are only interested in purchasing programs which can stay with Shredder and Fritz in the long run? It is your money but you are missing out on quite a bit of fun by limiting your choices that way. >Must admithere that the only top program i dont own is Junior 9, so i really cant say how >it would fit in that mix. But my guess is it would come in no. 2 behind >Shredder8. One interesting note here. I have run fritz 8 and shredder 8 thru >hundreds of games online on pogo and yahoo in NONRATED games ag. humans. When i >downloaded fruit 2.1, i did the same with it. It is very interesting that it >seems to do better ag. human competition than shredder or fritz. If u really >want to see run some tests where the outcome is in doubt, forget all the rating >lists from people with agendas and download ProDeo 1.1 and List 512. Who are these people with agendas? I want to smash their partisan agendas to pieces.... :-) >Run your >matches between those 2 and Fruit 2.1. They are free also. u may be shocked at >the outcome u get. Later, Bud At what time control would you suggest? Later.
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