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Subject: Re: Shredder-FRC will be playing Vs GM Zoltan Almasi on the August 10

Author: Joachim Rang

Date: 12:57:26 07/18/05

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On July 18, 2005 at 14:23:54, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On July 18, 2005 at 10:46:20, Joachim Rang wrote:
>
>>On July 18, 2005 at 06:50:03, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On July 18, 2005 at 06:05:30, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 17, 2005 at 13:49:00, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 17, 2005 at 13:18:16, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 17, 2005 at 12:17:23, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Pick the winner on both of this matches
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Peter Svidler vs The Baron-Frc, and Zoltan Almasi vs Shredder-Frc. The
>>>>>>>exhibition matches will be played just before the Chess960 World Championship in
>>>>>>>Mainz, on August 10, at the location of the Chess960 WCC. Time control will be
>>>>>>>25min plus 10 sec increment, 2 games. As a novelty, both programs will play
>>>>>>>without tablebases. The games will be played on standard single processor P4s.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jorge
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Svidler-Baron: 0,5-1.5
>>>>>>Almasi-Shredder: 0-2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>not really interesting...
>>>>>
>>>>>What about Svidler vs Shredder-Frc ?
>>>>>Almasi vs Baronn FRC ?
>>>>>
>>>>>PS: Would those be interesting matches?
>>>>>Jorge
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>no given the circumstances.
>>>>
>>>>Why I think both GM will loose badly:
>>>>
>>>>1. This is rapid chess - a big advantage for any program
>>>>2. This is a "warm-up"- Match for the GMs. That means no special preparation,
>>>>they don't take it seriously and they won't play with maximum power to save
>>>>energy for the "real event".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>However I think Chess960 favors the programs even more than normal chess since
>>>>the human won't be able to reach positions he understands and is comfortanble
>>>>with. Chess960 is tactics from the very beginning I doubt we will see a
>>>>Chess960-Match against any decent engine which can be drawn by the human.
>>>>
>>>>regards Joachim
>>>
>>>
>>>It already happened in last year Chess Classic Mainz 2004, please take a look:
>>>
>>>Chess960 Man vs. Machine Match
>>>This match was staged on Wednesday, August 4th 2004. It saw GM Levon Aronian
>>>take on the Dutch program The Baron by Richard Pijl in the Fischer Random
>>>variant of chess. Both games were drawn, with Aronian making what the
>>>organisers' home page describes as "an hilarious mistake" – he forgot the exact
>>>castling rules for the queenside and had to be corrected by the computer
>>>program. The final score was 1:1.
>>>
>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1831
>>>
>>>PS: also take into consideration that Richard used a Dual SMP machine and for
>>>this match it will be a standard single P4 processor.
>>>
>>>Jorge
>>
>>okay we'll see. However I think Baron has improved to the stage where it will be
>>hard for Svidler to achieve the draw.
>>
>>regards Joachim
>
>
>I believe that if Peter Svidler try hard without taking any risks he will beat
>Baron-Frc, knowing that by winning, he will definitively play against
>Shredder-Frc later on for a bigger price money :-)
>
>PS: It is all on the planning and this is the best way to advertise the future
>match :-)
>
>Jorge


hm, if he tries to win he will loose :-(. He still can draw both games when he
plays clever and with 100% concentration.

Time is over for humans to beat comps...

regards Joachim



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