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Subject: Re: Shredder-FRC will be playing Vs GM Zoltan Almasi on the August 10

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 18:58:13 07/18/05

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On July 18, 2005 at 21:33:27, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On July 18, 2005 at 15:57:26, Joachim Rang wrote:
>
>>On July 18, 2005 at 14:23:54, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On July 18, 2005 at 10:46:20, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 18, 2005 at 06:50:03, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 18, 2005 at 06:05:30, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 17, 2005 at 13:49:00, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On July 17, 2005 at 13:18:16, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On July 17, 2005 at 12:17:23, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    Pick the winner on both of this matches
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      Peter Svidler vs The Baron-Frc, and Zoltan Almasi vs Shredder-Frc. The
>>>>>>>>>exhibition matches will be played just before the Chess960 World Championship in
>>>>>>>>>Mainz, on August 10, at the location of the Chess960 WCC. Time control will be
>>>>>>>>>25min plus 10 sec increment, 2 games. As a novelty, both programs will play
>>>>>>>>>without tablebases. The games will be played on standard single processor P4s.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Jorge
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Svidler-Baron: 0,5-1.5
>>>>>>>>Almasi-Shredder: 0-2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>not really interesting...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What about Svidler vs Shredder-Frc ?
>>>>>>>Almasi vs Baronn FRC ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>PS: Would those be interesting matches?
>>>>>>>Jorge
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>no given the circumstances.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why I think both GM will loose badly:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. This is rapid chess - a big advantage for any program
>>>>>>2. This is a "warm-up"- Match for the GMs. That means no special preparation,
>>>>>>they don't take it seriously and they won't play with maximum power to save
>>>>>>energy for the "real event".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>However I think Chess960 favors the programs even more than normal chess since
>>>>>>the human won't be able to reach positions he understands and is comfortanble
>>>>>>with. Chess960 is tactics from the very beginning I doubt we will see a
>>>>>>Chess960-Match against any decent engine which can be drawn by the human.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>regards Joachim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It already happened in last year Chess Classic Mainz 2004, please take a look:
>>>>>
>>>>>Chess960 Man vs. Machine Match
>>>>>This match was staged on Wednesday, August 4th 2004. It saw GM Levon Aronian
>>>>>take on the Dutch program The Baron by Richard Pijl in the Fischer Random
>>>>>variant of chess. Both games were drawn, with Aronian making what the
>>>>>organisers' home page describes as "an hilarious mistake" – he forgot the exact
>>>>>castling rules for the queenside and had to be corrected by the computer
>>>>>program. The final score was 1:1.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1831
>>>>>
>>>>>PS: also take into consideration that Richard used a Dual SMP machine and for
>>>>>this match it will be a standard single P4 processor.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jorge
>>>>
>>>>okay we'll see. However I think Baron has improved to the stage where it will be
>>>>hard for Svidler to achieve the draw.
>>>>
>>>>regards Joachim
>>>
>>>
>>>I believe that if Peter Svidler try hard without taking any risks he will beat
>>>Baron-Frc, knowing that by winning, he will definitively play against
>>>Shredder-Frc later on for a bigger price money :-)
>>>
>>>PS: It is all on the planning and this is the best way to advertise the future
>>>match :-)
>>>
>>>Jorge
>>
>>
>>hm, if he tries to win he will loose :-(. He still can draw both games when he
>>plays clever and with 100% concentration.
>>
>>Time is over for humans to beat comps...
>>
>>regards Joachim
>
>Joachim, Joachim, do you realize that Peter Svidler is rated 2738 FIDE and
>Baron-FRC even at Blitz time control of 25min plus 10 sec increment is NOT, and
>it will NOT play higher than 2700, unless you bring a Super Fast Quad SMP
>machine.

PS: And don't you think that because Baron-FRC drew against GM Aronian Levon
last year rated 2724 by FIDE in two games it is close to 2700.

Jorge



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