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Subject: Re: BUG in Shredder or wrong notation in game 3 ?

Author: Eduard Nemeth

Date: 03:30:30 07/19/05

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>[Event "Republica Argentina Chess Masters"]
>[Site "Olivos"]
>[Date "2005.07.16"]
>[Round "3"]
>[White "Lafuente, Pablo"]
>[Black "COMP Shredder 9.0, PIV 3,5 Ghz 512RAM"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "E32"]
>[WhiteElo "2442"]
>[BlackElo "2600"]
>[PlyCount "103"]
>[EventDate "2005.07.14"]
>[SourceDate "2005.07.14"]
>
>1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 d6 5. Nf3 Nbd7 6. Bd2 O-O 7. a3 Bxc3 8.
>Bxc3 Qe7 9. e3 b6 10. Be2 Bb7 11. O-O Ne4 12. Nd2 Nxc3 13. Qxc3 c5 14. Bf3 Nf6
>15. b4 Rac8 16. dxc5 dxc5 17. b5 Rcd8 18. Rad1 Rd6 19. Bxb7 Rfd8 20. Bc6 Ng4
>21. Bf3 Qh4 22. h3 Nh6 23. Nb3 Nf5 24. Rxd6 Nxd6 25. Rd1 Qe7 26. Rd3 f6 27. Nd2
>Kf8 28. Ne4 Nf7 29. Rxd8+ Qxd8 30. Qd2 Qe7 31. Be2 Qb7 32. Nc3 Qe7 33. a4 Qc7
>34. f4 Qe7 35. Qd3 g6 36. Nb1 Kg7 37. Nd2 e5 38. Ne4 exf4 39. exf4 Qe6 40. Nc3
>Nd6 41. Kh2 Ne8 42. Qe4 Qxe4 43. Nxe4 f5 44. Nd2 Nc7 45. Nf3 Ne6 46. g3 Kf6 47.
>Kg2 Ke7 48. Kf2 Nd4 49. Nxd4 cxd4 50. c5 bxc5 51. Bc4 Kd6 52. Ke2 1-0


In my Opinion this game 3 is wrong (BUG in Shredder, or Blackout of the
Operator).

See the analysis by Shredder 9.1 UCI with ONLY 32 MB hash:

[D]5rk1/pB2qppp/1p1rpn2/1Pp5/2P5/P1Q1P3/3N1PPP/3R1RK1 b - -

White played here Qxb7, OK.

Analysis:

Engine: Shredder 9.1 UCI (32 MB)
von Stefan Meyer-Kahlen

12/18  0:01   +0.10    19...Dxb7 20.Sf3 Tfd8 21.Txd6 Txd6
                       22.Se5 De4 23.f3 Dh4 24.Dc2 Sd7
                       25.Sg4 f5 (247.419) 132

13/21  0:03   -0.01    19...Dxb7 20.Sf3 Tfd8 21.Txd6 Txd6
                       22.Se5 De4 23.f3 Dh4 24.Dc2 Sd7
                       25.Sg4 Sf6 26.Sxf6+ Dxf6 (426.769) 135

14/22  0:08   +0.05    19...Dxb7 20.Dc2 Tfd8 21.Sf3 Se4 (1.172.924) 140

15/26  0:13   +0.07    19...Dxb7 20.Sf3 Se4 21.Dc2 Tfd8
                       22.Txd6 Txd6 (1.970.983) 143

16/25  0:19   +0.07    19...Dxb7 20.Sf3 Se4 21.Dc2 Tfd8
                       22.Txd6 Txd6 23.Se5 (2.853.797) 145

17/26  0:33   +0.07    19...Dxb7 20.Sf3 Se4 21.Dc2 Tfd8
                       22.Txd6 Txd6 23.Se5 (4.675.672) 140

18/32  1:15   +0.09    19...Dxb7 20.Sf3 Tfd8 21.Txd6 Txd6
                       22.Se5 a6 23.bxa6 Dxa6 24.f3 Sd7
                       25.Sd3 f6 26.Db3 e5 27.Td1 (10.214.372) 135

19/36  2:31   +0.05    19...Dxb7 20.Sf3 Tfd8 21.Txd6 Txd6
                       22.Se5 Se4 23.Dc2 f6 24.f3 (20.761.121) 136


And now after Move 19. Qxb7, Shredder 9.o played real  19….Rfd8?? - is his real
possible?

Analysis by Shredder 9.1 UCI:

[D]3r2k1/pB2qppp/1p1rpn2/1Pp5/2P5/P1Q1P3/3N1PPP/3R1RK1 w - -

Engine: Shredder 9.1 UCI (32 MB)
von Stefan Meyer-Kahlen

9/19   0:01   +3.46++  20.Lf3 (190.004) 119

9/19   0:01   +3.52    20.Lf3 e5 21.Le2 e4 22.a4 De6 23.a5 Df5
                       24.f3 (225.075) 120

10/19  0:02   +3.48    20.Lf3 e5 21.Le2 e4 22.Sb3 De6
                       23.Txd6 Dxd6 24.f3 exf3 25.Lxf3 Te8 (284.193) 120

11/21  0:03   +3.52    20.Lf3 e5 21.Le2 e4 22.Sb3 De6
                       23.Txd6 Dxd6 24.f3 exf3 25.Lxf3 Te8
                       26.Lb7 (427.555) 123

12/21  0:06   +3.67    20.Lf3 e5 21.Le2 e4 22.Sb3 T8d7
                       23.Txd6 Dxd6 24.f3 exf3 25.Lxf3 Dd3
                       26.Dxd3 Txd3 27.Ld1 (821.305) 125

13/24  0:11   +3.73    20.Lf3 Td3 21.Dc2 Txa3 22.Se4 Sxe4
                       23.Lxe4 f5 24.Txd8+ Dxd8 25.Td1 Dh4
                       26.Db2 Txe3 (1.488.871) 128

13/26  0:16   +3.74++  20.Lc6 (2.079.979) 128

13/26  0:16   +3.74    20.Lc6 a6 21.Dc2 axb5 22.cxb5 Sg4
                       23.Se4 Dh4 24.h3 Txd1 25.Txd1 Se5 (2.151.827) 128

On my PC Shredder 9.1 need not play Rfd8?

Eduard.



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