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Subject: Re: Here is my point of view............................................

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 22:54:11 07/19/05

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On July 19, 2005 at 22:06:09, Pedro Castro wrote:

>I believe that I did not explain myself well.
>
>In the classic chess is a single position, if I would play my program against if
>same without opening book, they always would play the same game, thanks to the
>opening book I can play with my engine and other engine hundreds of games
>without games are repeated of game.
>
>But in chess960, there are 960 positions of beginning, nevertheless do not exist
>at least at the moment opening books, my question was if those 960 positions
>were sufficient so that games were not repeated, I suppose that the good
>programs will have activated the learning already.
>

Even without an Opening book a computer can play indefinitive amount of
different Openings, let me explain how............

Lets take one of the 960 Positions for instance, position number 16:

With this initial position number 16
[D]bbnqnrkr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/BBNQNRKR w - - 0 1

Let say Baron-FRc can play 1.Ne1-f3
[D]bbnqnrkr/pppppppp/8/8/8/5N2/PPPPPPPP/BBNQ1RKR b - - 1 1
Baron-FRC can also play 1.Ne1-d3
[D]bbnqnrkr/pppppppp/8/8/8/3N4/PPPPPPPP/BBNQ1RKR b - - 1 1
Baron-FRC can also play 1.Nc1-d3
[D]bbnqnrkr/pppppppp/8/8/8/3N4/PPPPPPPP/BB1QNRKR b - - 1 1
Baron-FRC can also play 1.Nc1-b3
[D]bbnqnrkr/pppppppp/8/8/8/1N6/PPPPPPPP/BB1QNRKR b - - 1 1

It can also Open with any of the eight pawns too, and the second, third, fourth
moves, etc... (up to move 20 or so )of each of these openings could be
different, just like in standard chess; so a program or human doesn't need to
have an opening book to play different openings from one of the initial 960
positions. The program or human will play different openings, but there has not
been an official name yet assigned to each of these opening that a program or
human can instantly play from any of the 960 positions. Therefore, thousands of
openings can instantly be created with humans or programs.

Jorge




>I suppose that in chess 960 with the passage of time for position it would be
>possible to be creating a opening book.
>
>Pedro



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