Author: Uri Blass
Date: 07:52:52 07/21/05
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On July 21, 2005 at 09:03:26, Steve Glanzfeld wrote: >On July 21, 2005 at 07:46:55, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On July 21, 2005 at 06:45:04, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On July 21, 2005 at 06:12:08, Steve Glanzfeld wrote: > >>>>Most chess programs do not claim the 50-draw before making the 50th move (100th >>>>ply), or by putting the move into the notation only. >>> >>>I disagree >>>Chess program never do something except putting the move into the notation. >>> >>>Usually some interface or some operator translate the moves that they print to >>>moves in the board or in the virtual board. >>> >>>I am not sure what the fide rule say about a situation when blind person say a >>>move and immediately after saying the move claims that the move force draw by >>>the 50 move rule before the opponent makes the move on the board for the blind >>>person and press the clock. >>> >>>Uri >> >>I asked this question and the rules say that blind person completed his move >>only when the move was made in the board so by the same logic if the program >>claims a draw before the move was made in the board then the claim is accepted. >> >>If a program has some robotic arm that can move the pieces in the board then I >>agree that it needs first to claim a draw and only after it move the robotic >>arm. > >Do you live in a fantasy world where only computerchess tournaments with real >boards exist and anyone thinks only in terms of engine/GUI concepts? > >Forget it. > >The program is ALL IT'S PARTS. When a move is made on the board display, the >program has moved. The fide rules are relevant only for real board and not for the board display. If you use the interface to decide about the time of a move then the interface rules are important here and not the fide rules(when I play in playchess I even do not need to claim a draw for repetition because the interface does it for me because the game is not played by the fide rules) That's how it is in the real world at the computers of >zillions of users. They are not interested in which file which code is. They >would never agree that no move has been made but only a notation output, when >the move HAS been made on the screen. Yes but they may agree that the fide rules do not exist when the game is not played in a real board. Uri
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