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Subject: Re: help on extensions, please!

Author: Steffen Jakob

Date: 08:06:46 02/19/99

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Hi Werner!

On February 19, 1999 at 10:41:28, Inmann Werner wrote:

>On February 19, 1999 at 08:47:20, Steffen Jakob wrote:
>
>>Hi Werner!
>>
>>On February 18, 1999 at 18:01:43, Inmann Werner wrote:
>>
>>>Hello!
>>>
>>>After looking at the results of the other programs and mine, I got really
>>>disturbed. After ply 8, my program calculated 2.454.000 positions, and the
>>>others do around 700.000!
>>>I checked my extensions and put out my check extension, and suddenly my program
>>>only needed around 600.000 nodes.
>>>I think, i do something very very wrong!
>>>I extend on any check that comes when there is only 2 or less distance till
>>>quiet search. This seems to blow up the tree extensively. I do this extension
>>>up to 5 times within one search, so sometimes in a 8 ply search , I search to
>>>ply 13.
>>>So my question is.
>>>When should I extend on check?
>>
>>You have to make sure that you don't use extensions which are > 1 ply. Otherwise
>>your tree will explode. Another thing which is useful is to reduce the
>>extensions when you are searching very deep (e.g. if(ply > 2*root_depth)
>>extension >>= 1).
>>
>>Greetings,
>>Steffen.
>
>Thanks Steffen!
>
>I again found some big bug. The bugs don“t end....
>I wanted to extend on beating sequences on the same field, which do not change
>material too much, but as bug is, I extended on all beatings possible!!!
>You can imagine the tree explode?
>Sometimes I am confused, why Inmichess with all this bugs play chess, and not so

And sometimes it even happens that your program plays worse when you remove the
bug :-)

>bad chess. In the last 2 weeks this is th 3rd big bug, I found. So i am looking
>forward to test my new version! I hope Hossa will eat the bugs..  :-)

Hossa's rating dropped to 2200 again but I don't know why. I didn't change much
(almost the same version was able to win a 5 0 game against Bob's orginal Crafty
some days ago) and won't have time to change much in the near future.

I wish you good luck with Imnichess.

Best wishes,
Steffen



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