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Subject: Re: Propaganda machine in full action - They are really admitting defeat

Author: Henrik Dinesen

Date: 08:00:25 07/24/05

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On July 24, 2005 at 10:08:41, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>     Hi GCP
>     A further sign of propaganda for the coming
>     Fritz 9 is the following ChessBase article
>     http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2531
>     "Deep Fritz 8 vs Deep Junior 9 – the truth within
>     by Aryan Argandewal". The latter came to some most
>     "convincing" conclusions on the basis of a three-stage
>     experiment: the electronic gladiators played 30 blitz
>     games (4 min + 2 sec), five rapid games (25min) and three
>     games with classical time control. And a result of this
>     it is/was clear for the writer that Fritz is a very strong
>     and Junior a comparatively much weaker program. I have
>     seldom read such nonsense in the same message.
>     Kurt

Hi Kurt,

Nonsense? That's a very mild expression here. When I read it this morning, I
didn't knew if I should laugh or cry.

Infact we are told almost nothing at all - and nothing near the truth.

One Intel notebook, apparantly with HT is used. The deep versions of the engines
is used... Was ponder swithced on? It's funny to think it was! And then it's no
wonder if Juniors evaluation was so wild.
Probably Fritz doesn't suffer in performance ran on Intel, but I think Junior
does.
Books: Original? Reset learning?
Hashtablesize? Tablebases?
Etc, etc.

Many of us have those engines, and more too, and this is the first I've seen
Junior being beaten so hard by a Fritz engine. They use to be about even.

It's simply to folish, though it's presented like it was scientific facts!
Is the Chessbase editors on vacation? This is far below their normal propaganda.

Henrik



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