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Subject: Re: Propaganda machine in full action - They are really admitting defeat

Author: Gian-Carlo Pascutto

Date: 16:44:25 07/24/05

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On July 24, 2005 at 19:42:19, Uri Blass wrote:

>On July 24, 2005 at 19:14:34, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On July 24, 2005 at 19:00:14, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On July 24, 2005 at 07:19:51, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 24, 2005 at 06:15:54, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.chesscafe.com/mig/mig.htm
>>>>
>>>>The strongest program (Shredder) is no longer sold by ChessBase --> time to put
>>>>the propaganda machine in action.
>>>>
>>>>So, now, beating other programs is not important anymore and if Fritz gets
>>>>clobbered by an 180k free program this is because it's 'smarter'! It's because
>>>>it has so much 'knowledge'!
>>>>
>>>>The new Fritz is not or almost not stronger than the old one where you payed
>>>>money for? No really, you can 'feel' it's playing more 'humanlike' instead!
>>>>
>>>>Also handy that the claim of being stronger against humans is almost impossible
>>>>to objectively verify.
>>>>
>>>>The really sickening thing is that people will eat this ChessBase propaganda by
>>>>the boatloads and report is as facts.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>GCP
>>>
>>>I think that you missed the following paragraph when they claim that Fritz does
>>>well against other programs and Methias Feist was sure that more knowledge would
>>>also make it strong against other programs:
>>
>>I didn't miss that paragraph, and it does nothing to contradict the point I
>>made.
>>
>>--
>>GCP
>
>The point that you made is that it is an excuse to justify bad results against
>other programs(it was also my impression when I started to read) but if Fritz9
>does well against other programs then there are no bad results against other
>programs that chessbase need to justify.

If it is not the number 1, and they can no longer sell the number 1, they have a
problem.

--
GCP



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