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Subject: Re: Propaganda machine in full action - They are really admitting defeat

Author: Joachim Rang

Date: 02:23:22 07/25/05

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On July 24, 2005 at 19:44:25, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On July 24, 2005 at 19:42:19, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On July 24, 2005 at 19:14:34, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>
>>>On July 24, 2005 at 19:00:14, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 24, 2005 at 07:19:51, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 24, 2005 at 06:15:54, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.chesscafe.com/mig/mig.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>The strongest program (Shredder) is no longer sold by ChessBase --> time to put
>>>>>the propaganda machine in action.
>>>>>
>>>>>So, now, beating other programs is not important anymore and if Fritz gets
>>>>>clobbered by an 180k free program this is because it's 'smarter'! It's because
>>>>>it has so much 'knowledge'!
>>>>>
>>>>>The new Fritz is not or almost not stronger than the old one where you payed
>>>>>money for? No really, you can 'feel' it's playing more 'humanlike' instead!
>>>>>
>>>>>Also handy that the claim of being stronger against humans is almost impossible
>>>>>to objectively verify.
>>>>>
>>>>>The really sickening thing is that people will eat this ChessBase propaganda by
>>>>>the boatloads and report is as facts.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>GCP
>>>>
>>>>I think that you missed the following paragraph when they claim that Fritz does
>>>>well against other programs and Methias Feist was sure that more knowledge would
>>>>also make it strong against other programs:
>>>
>>>I didn't miss that paragraph, and it does nothing to contradict the point I
>>>made.
>>>
>>>--
>>>GCP
>>
>>The point that you made is that it is an excuse to justify bad results against
>>other programs(it was also my impression when I started to read) but if Fritz9
>>does well against other programs then there are no bad results against other
>>programs that chessbase need to justify.
>
>If it is not the number 1, and they can no longer sell the number 1, they have a
>problem.
>
>--
>GCP


yeah but they are already tackling it. By the way I assume there will be a
Chessbase-Version of Shredder 10. It does not make sense for SMK to waive that
extra money.

regards Joachim

regards Joachim



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