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Subject: Re: buy a Mephisto Milano at ebay

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 01:57:37 07/27/05

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On July 26, 2005 at 19:10:20, William Sorin wrote:

>Hi Thorsten
>
>
>  Can you provide a link to an ebay auction for this brand? I wouldn't mind
>trying it out if it's as strong as you say, and for only 70 bucks

Mephisto Masters are normally sold between 70-99 EURO in germany at ebay.

Mephisto Milano are normally sold for 30 EURO.

I looked at ebay, but surprisingly there is no offer in the moment.
But there will be, i am sure.

If you search for dedicated chess computers at EBAY.DE you can use the
search-string

"schachcomputer".

I am sure in a few days there will be more offers because Milano and Master were
 normally offered very often.

I did a little tournament with Milano and Master included.

time control was 40/120.

http://f50.parsimony.net/forum200336/messages/4722.htm

There you will also find the GAMES in PGN, so that you can replay them,
or get an impression how MILANO and MASTER play.

Master (by frans morsch) is more a search based program.
It makes many NPS but has problems with positional stuff.
Milano (by ed schroeder) is not so fast concerning search.
Sometimes you can watch it computing 3rd ply. but in the result
it plays not much weaker.

of course in tactical positions the master might be the better choice.
on the other hand MILANO might be better for positional analysis or mail-chess.

Here is a link that shows the Master on a picture. and also the price if you
want to buy it NEW.

http://www.swapusa.com/MEPHISTO-MASTER-CHESS---CHESS-COMPUTER-ENDORSED-BY-KASPAROV.html

The Milano


https://www.schachversand.de/DBBilder/computer/GMMIL.jpg

was sold for 250 EURO when it was new, and is now sold at ebay for 1/10 of this
price. The Master is sold 1/2 the price of the new machine.


Reason is that the Master is not so old. The Milano is from 1991, the Master
from 2002.


in the SSDF list,

http://www.schachcomputer.info/html/ssdf.html

or in other rating lists such as
http://www.schachcomputer.info/html/elo_liste_-_erklarung.html

you will find a difference in ELO about 100 ELO between Milano and Master.

Both machines do alternatively run with 6 MIGNON cells, so you can use them at
the beach or in the car.




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