Author: Reinhard Scharnagl
Date: 09:05:58 07/27/05
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On July 27, 2005 at 11:59:01, Uri Blass wrote: >On July 27, 2005 at 11:53:59, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote: > >>On July 27, 2005 at 11:47:22, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On July 27, 2005 at 11:31:05, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote: >>> >>>>On July 27, 2005 at 11:19:07, F. Huber wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 27, 2005 at 10:28:55, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On July 27, 2005 at 09:42:55, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>As far as I understand there is already a tool to translate Shredder's notation >>>>>>>to your notation and the opposite(see >>>>>>>http://www.volker-pittlik.name/wbforum/viewtopic.php?t=3135). >>>> >>>>>>Second, the "Converter" cannot be bidirectional, because the FEN Shredder has >>>>>>chosen simply is incompatible. >>>> >>>>>What a NONSENSE! >>>>> >>>>>It would take me no more than 10 minutes to implement the reverse direction too, >>>>>but I simply don´t want to convert a logical, modern and easily understandable >>>>>FEN-format into the ancient X-FEN! Point! >>>> >>>>Franz, >>>> >>>>if it would help you: it is not the fault of your tool. But fact is, that on >>>>Shredders side there are *two* FENs for *one* position. Ant thus there could >>>>not be bidirectional converting functions, full stop. >>> >>>Hi Reinhard, >>>If I understand correctly you claim that it is not possible to translate because >>>it is not clear if to translate FEN in shredder to position A in X-FEN or >>>position B in X-FEN(otherwise I see no problem in transaltion). >> >>>Can you give an example when position in Shredder's notation can be translated >>>to 2 different positions in X-FEN when both translations are possible? >> >>Uri, >> >>I already did this. But I can explain it more detailed on chess starting array: >> >>traditional: rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - >>FRC SP-518: rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w HAha - >> >>Reinhard. > >Yes but it is only a problem if you want to translate from X-FEN to Shredder's >notation(what F. Huber already did) and it is practically no problem because in >that case we assume that HAha notation is used. Uri, as long as you work only with Shredder, you will for sure stay compatible to Shredder. But the world contains of more places where FEN is used than Shredder. And as I have shown there is no interoperability between Shredder an existing Chess960 online servers (referenced only one example with Brainking). Reinhard.
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