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Subject: Re: Is SMIRF compatible ... some Examples

Author: Reinhard Scharnagl

Date: 02:13:49 07/28/05

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On July 28, 2005 at 04:54:58, F. Huber wrote:

>On July 28, 2005 at 04:38:17, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote:
>
>>On July 28, 2005 at 03:56:07, F. Huber wrote:
>>
>>>On July 27, 2005 at 18:31:12, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 27, 2005 at 18:05:52, F. Huber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 27, 2005 at 17:46:22, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 27, 2005 at 15:28:33, Joseph Tadeusz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>One point of view is that Steven Edwards made a mistake by choosing the
>>>>>>>inflexible KQ notation for FEN, wich has now been corrected by SMK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What you do with X-FEN is a workaround wich can lead to abberations like
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> KgQbkgqc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>impossible in played games. Show me one game with three equal colored rooks.
>>>>>
>>>>>"impossible" is actually WRONG - "improbable" would be the correct word!
>>>>>
>>>>>>There are less than 1/1000000 of positions having an inner castling enabled rook
>>>>>>alone, so such constructable positions are even more irrelevant.
>>>>>
>>>>>"irrelevant"? Well, 1/1000000 of all possible chess positions (about 10^38 IIRC)
>>>>>are still quite a lot!
>>>>
>>>>>You see: NONE of your arguments really convince ANYONE!
>>>>>
>>>>>Franz.
>>>>
>>>>How would you know?
>>>>
>>>>compatibility to 960 relevant Chess960 starting positions is ignored by
>>>>Shredder, whereas X-FEN is able to face some compromises in that addressed
>>>>point, whether you call it relevant or irrelevant does not matter at all.
>>>>
>>>>Reinhard.
>>
>>>Your Majesty, (or should I better call you ´God´?)
>>
>>Franz,
>>
>>such nonsense would neither be helpful nor underline your point of view.
>>
>>>once again I´ve forgotten, that your opinion is the one and only truth in our
>>>whole universe (and maybe also in all parallel universes, if they exist) -
>>>I´m so sorry about having ignored this fact!
>>
>>a) there has been a world of Chess960 applications before FRC-Shredder,
>>b) it is in fact Shredder now establishing an incompatible FEN,
>>c) I myself have suggested some compromises, SMK none but refuted all.
>>
>>>Please forgive us dumb, small idiots ...
>>
>>You are searching egocentric people at the wrong place. First learn the
>>meaning of the word compatibility, then try to join a serious discussion.
>>
>>Reinhard.

>There´s no need for further discussions with you, Reinhard -
>
>I´ve finally accepted your infallibility ... ;-)
>
>Franz.

Franz,

don't behave like a child. You are definitely wrong in your assumptions. As a
matter of fact I point to a made change in 10x8 X-FEN. Here originally a '0' had
represented 10 empty fields. But some other chess friends knowing about the
FFEN approach convinced me to better use "10" instead. Therefore 10x8 X-FEN has
been changed.

If currently a compromise would be thinkable encoding inner Rooks with castling
rights a different way, there of course would be a way to do that, because such
positions still have been encoded very rarely, and there would be no big problem
of compatibility especially towards existing game PGNs.

But as I have to repeat, it is SMK with his Shredder insisting to stay
imcompatible refuting such proposed compromises. Thus you are addressing your
polemic to an absolutely unmatching target.

Reinhard.



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