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Subject: Re: Withdrawal

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 05:35:49 02/20/99

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On February 20, 1999 at 08:31:37, Albert Silver wrote:

>On February 20, 1999 at 00:13:10, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On February 19, 1999 at 20:32:35, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>>
>>>One of the moderators felt that he had something to tell me.  He did it in an
>>>email which is, not only in my opinion, but also in the opinion of some other
>>>people on this forum to whom I sent it (to check if I had misjudged it), a
>>>scandalous piece of malicious communication.  Deeply hurt, and shaken, still
>>>incredulous, I hereby withdraw from this Forum.  I am hurt even more as there
>>>are many nice and civilised people here whom I will surely miss.  However, the
>>>only course of action that I felt I could pursue now was to simply leave.
>>>
>>>Best regards to CCC!
>>>
>>>Djordje
>>
>>
>>Today I sent a message to Djordje.  It contained a request to desist from
>>off-topic posts.  (And I apologize for this post, but felt I had to set the
>>record straight.)
>>
>>After that simple and polite request, I said I was removing my moderator hat,
>>and the rest of the message was personal, just from me to him.  I took issue
>>with some of the statements he had made, and requested some further information.
>> If he felt I was harsh, I did not intend to be at all.  But that was strictly
>>between him and me.  It was a PERSONAL communication, that was absolutely clear.
>> There is no reason at all for him to withdraw.  My moderator duties do not
>>prohibit me from emailing someone on a personal basis.
>>
>>I apologized to him because I wrote something in a way that could have been
>>misunderstood.  But nothing harsh or underhanded was intended.  Sometimes we all
>>have strong opinions, and we express them sometimes well or sometimes poorly.
>>Maybe I expressed them poorly.
>>
>>But this was a personal message, had NOTHING to do with CCC, and he has no
>>reason to withdraw.  He makes very valuable contributions, and we would all miss
>>his presence.
>>
>>Will Singleton
>
>I must admit I found this intriguing. I don't understand how you expect take
>your moderator hat off in the middle of an official communication. Imagine a
>letter that followed these lines:
>
>Dear Sir,
>
>        As a moderator I am writing to bring your attention to a proliferation
>of off-topic posts, which on a personal note I thought were incredibly stupid.
>Indeed this desire to write on topics not directly related to computer chess,
>nor having the words computer or chess in them (or acceptable synonyms) has been
>cause for a certain amount of alarm, and on a personal note, what do I care if
>you are currently being held prisoner in a hidden camp for ethnic cleansing?
>Such posts detract from the purpose of this group which is, as I am duty-bound
>to remind you, about computer chess, or tolerably, about either chess (as long
>as the position was submitted to Crafty or Fritz), or computers (if their
>purpose is chess related or have at least one chess program installed on it. NB:
>Microsoft Chess is not considered valid for this purpose). On a personal note,
>what the hell do you expect us to do about some bogus address in Serbia? Form a
>a protest group in front of gates that you yourself explain are watched by men
>in black ski-masks armed with automatic weapons? Ha! Get real! As moderator I
>was relieved to see that in your last post you state that this will probably be
>your post so I presume that no future warnings on this subject will be
>neccessary.
>
>                               Best regards,
>
>                                     Your friendly Moderator
>
>Of course, I am exaggerating

Not that much... Reality is sometimes worse than fiction.

Enrique

> but you can see what an ambiguous foot this puts
>you on. Think about it.
>
>                                 Albert Silver



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