Author: Uri Blass
Date: 22:57:21 07/30/05
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On July 31, 2005 at 00:49:33, Madhavan wrote: >On July 30, 2005 at 12:33:06, Günther Simon wrote: > >>On July 30, 2005 at 11:47:18, Madhavan wrote: >> >>>On July 30, 2005 at 10:00:02, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On July 30, 2005 at 07:07:48, Günther Simon wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 29, 2005 at 20:01:32, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Some words to the great Alejandro Mendez from playchess. !!!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Alejandro Mendez(son-of-father), from Argentina, have won to Zappa 2.0b. in a >>>>>>10+10 time control game. >>>>>> >>>>>>Son-Of-Father, a human being, have had until 2737 elo into engines room >>>>>>fromplaychess playing and beating many engines 100% as a human being. >>>>>> >>>>>>Now the tourn for a k.o. have been to Zappa. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>This is worse than yellow press. >>>>>The game was played by a beta tester of Zappa (not by Anthony, not by Arturo) >>>>>and it was played at the crappy Playchess server with a buggy GUI (the only >>>>>one allowed there). The buggy GUI cannot play on after move 256. >>>> >>>> >>>>I am not sure if the chessbase interface cannot play on or if it sends the >>>>engine wrong information that cause it to lose on time. >>>> >>>>I tested Movei under the chessbase interface not in playchess and one of the >>>>problem is that after move 256 the interface send fen and not a move. >>>>It also seems to me that the chessbase interface does not send correct time to >>>>the engine. >>>> >>>>and in 10+10 assumes that the time remaining is always 610 seconds regardless to >>>>the time on the clock. >>>> >>>>programs probably can play if they do not believe the time that the interface >>>>tell them but they should also know to ignore the position that they >>>>get(otherwise they can do repetition in a better position for no reason). >>> >>>I checked out the playchess site,once you offer a draw,you can't claim to offer >>>more draws unless 5 moves are made after the 1st claim,the bug has been fixed. >>> >>>>Uri >> >> >>Even if you can now only offer silly draws after 5 moves it is an incredible >>bug, that the _opponent_ needs to close that silly draw offers on _his_ time. > >sir,Its not like a player cannot have chance to offer draw.5 moves is reasonable >when you play in tournament[physical presence]I bet you can bug your winning >opponent with more draws in less than 1 move!how can your opponent ignore you? > >ignoring a draw is just a matter of pressing spacebar,you have to click the draw >on the corner which takes more time for you to do just that than your winning >opponent pressing space bar. Maybe you are right and I never tried it but the only way that I knew to reject abort(usually annoyers ask to abort) is by moving the mouse and it takes time when you are in time trouble. The time that the opponent spend is unimportant because it is possible that only one side is in time trouble. > >>Most people play blitz or even bullet there,(you e.g. play only bullet I see...) > >What's your playchess user Id? >have you spectated any of my games? > >>so 5 moves are just nothing and you are able to annoy your winning opponent >>again. > >see above.5 moves are reasonable,winning player should have oppurtinity to offer >draw to ahis opponent if he had lless time left in his clock. otherwise the >winning player would lose on time inspite of positinal and material advantage. No time is part of the game in the internet and if one side believe that he is going to lose without offering a draw then I think that it is not nice to offer a draw. > >>Sometimes I think such GUIs are only made by non chess players... > >Chess Grandmasters designed Chessbase GUI,its very nice and better than any >other online server GUI's,better than Arena[not a 3d,no even a 2d]I might add. > >>What about the abort offers BTW? > >thats nonsense,winning player should have oppurtinity to accept the draw offer >when he has enough time left in his clock I do not understand what it has to be with abort offers. I guess you mean that winning player should have the opportunity to accept draw when he has not enough time in his clock and I disagree. > >>Such a feature only leads to permanent cheating attempts. > >Cheating?you couldnt cheat on chessbase server Nonsense. People can cheat in every server. > >>(There are lots of cheaters anyway, if one searches through the lists, >>one can find people with ridiculous national ratings having > 2300 in >>bullet and blitz) > >I would like to let you know that Playchess rating is not measured as per FIDe >rating,Playchess rating evaluates very low for a good FIDE rated player,there >are many players having 2200 FIDe rating but less playchess rating[about 1700] >If the player is rated 2000 in playchess server,he might be around 2400 FIDE >elo. Nonsense. I have rating of above 2000 in playchess and I am not close to 2400 fide rating. I am not the best bullet player or the best blitz player and I know about players with rating near 1800 who are stronger than me in playchess(at least in bullet). Note that games in playchess are clearly different than games in real life because of the premove. If you see that the opponent is in serious time trouble then it may be a good idea to play some stupid check so the premove of the opponent will be illegal and the opponent will lose on time. Uri
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