Author: Vasik Rajlich
Date: 08:16:26 07/31/05
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On July 31, 2005 at 08:36:00, Uri Blass wrote: >On July 31, 2005 at 06:15:01, Günther Simon wrote: > >>On July 31, 2005 at 00:49:33, Madhavan wrote: >> >>>On July 30, 2005 at 12:33:06, Günther Simon wrote: >>> >>>>On July 30, 2005 at 11:47:18, Madhavan wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 30, 2005 at 10:00:02, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On July 30, 2005 at 07:07:48, Günther Simon wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On July 29, 2005 at 20:01:32, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Some words to the great Alejandro Mendez from playchess. !!!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Alejandro Mendez(son-of-father), from Argentina, have won to Zappa 2.0b. in a >>>>>>>>10+10 time control game. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Son-Of-Father, a human being, have had until 2737 elo into engines room >>>>>>>>fromplaychess playing and beating many engines 100% as a human being. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Now the tourn for a k.o. have been to Zappa. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>This is worse than yellow press. >>>>>>>The game was played by a beta tester of Zappa (not by Anthony, not by Arturo) >>>>>>>and it was played at the crappy Playchess server with a buggy GUI (the only >>>>>>>one allowed there). The buggy GUI cannot play on after move 256. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I am not sure if the chessbase interface cannot play on or if it sends the >>>>>>engine wrong information that cause it to lose on time. >>>>>> >>>>>>I tested Movei under the chessbase interface not in playchess and one of the >>>>>>problem is that after move 256 the interface send fen and not a move. >>>>>>It also seems to me that the chessbase interface does not send correct time to >>>>>>the engine. >>>>>> >>>>>>and in 10+10 assumes that the time remaining is always 610 seconds regardless to >>>>>>the time on the clock. >>>>>> >>>>>>programs probably can play if they do not believe the time that the interface >>>>>>tell them but they should also know to ignore the position that they >>>>>>get(otherwise they can do repetition in a better position for no reason). >>>>> >>>>>I checked out the playchess site,once you offer a draw,you can't claim to offer >>>>>more draws unless 5 moves are made after the 1st claim,the bug has been fixed. >>>>> >>>>>>Uri >>>> >>>> >>>>Even if you can now only offer silly draws after 5 moves it is an incredible >>>>bug, that the _opponent_ needs to close that silly draw offers on _his_ time. >>> >>>sir,Its not like a player cannot have chance to offer draw.5 moves is reasonable >>>when you play in tournament[physical presence]I bet you can bug your winning >>>opponent with more draws in less than 1 move!how can your opponent ignore you? >> >>This is forbidden, you should know? >> >>> >>>ignoring a draw is just a matter of pressing spacebar,you have to click the draw >>>on the corner which takes more time for you to do just that than your winning >>>opponent pressing space bar. >>> >>>>Most people play blitz or even bullet there,(you e.g. play only bullet I see...) >>> >>>What's your playchess user Id? >>>have you spectated any of my games? >>> >>>>so 5 moves are just nothing and you are able to annoy your winning opponent >>>>again. >>> >>>see above.5 moves are reasonable,winning player should have oppurtinity to offer >>>draw to ahis opponent if he had lless time left in his clock.otherwise the >>>winning player would lose on time inspite of positinal and material advantage. >> >>You seem not to understand? It is about declining draw offers! >>There is no reason that a winning player has to lose time on random actions >>to a sour loser, anyone will get this. >> >>> >>>>Sometimes I think such GUIs are only made by non chess players... >>> >>>Chess Grandmasters designed Chessbase GUI,its very nice and better than any >>>other online server GUI's,better than Arena[not a 3d,no even a 2d]I might add. >> >>Nonsense and nonsense, Arena is no chess server. >>ICC is much better than PlayChess and also ChessAssistant chess server is >>better, PlayChess as usual doesn't care for fixing bugs like M$. >> >> >>>>What about the abort offers BTW? >>> >>>thats nonsense,winning player should have oppurtinity to accept the draw offer >>>when he has enough time left in his clock >> >>No idea what you are talking about? See above. Moreover why do you talk no >>agian about offreing draws?? You ansered a sentence now about 'aborting'! >> >> >>> >>>>Such a feature only leads to permanent cheating attempts. >>> >>>Cheating?you couldnt cheat on chessbase server >> >>Haha, you seem already brainwashed by Playchess propaganda. You have >>never seen that around 1 player about every 5 minutes is caught cheating? >>And this is only the tip of the iceberg, most will never be caught... >> >>> >>>>(There are lots of cheaters anyway, if one searches through the lists, >>>>one can find people with ridiculous national ratings having > 2300 in >>>>bullet and blitz) >>> >>>I would like to let you know that Playchess rating is not measured as per FIDe >>>rating,Playchess rating evaluates very low for a good FIDE rated player,there >>>are many players having 2200 FIDe rating but less playchess rating[about 1700] >>>If the player is rated 2000 in playchess server,he might be around 2400 FIDE >>>elo.and in other case,my internet connection is very slow,damn slow!and I was >>>playing bullet games. >> >>It's exactly different Playchess ratings are much too high regarding >>FIDE ratings, thats true for all chess servers except FICS. > >It is correct only if you look at the rating of the best players. >if you look at blitz rating of players with fide rating near 2000 then it is not >always the case and in significant part of the cases players have better fide >rating relative to blitz rating. > >Uri Server ratings are pretty strange. I have several friends who are in normal blitz about my level, whose ICC ratings are 300 points above mine. I also doubt it's just because of cheating. You should be able to get at least a 3000 rating if you cheat and have a working brain. Besides, some of these people have played 2000+ games. I'd think it would get a bit boring after a while. Vas
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