Author: Will Singleton
Date: 18:55:06 02/20/99
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On February 20, 1999 at 19:34:43, Fernando Villegas wrote: >AGain and again we have trouble and valuable or at least -sometimes- funny and >or original people going out because a moderator in good faith made or said >something too harsh. Again and again posts are wiped because someone thought >they were "off topic" as if in this place we were discussing how to save the >Earth from an impending asteroid and so there is not time for off topic issues. >Again and again lack of humour and humanity produce unncesary conflict. Again >and again it is forgotten that a lot more important that the content of the >discussion -surely chess computer in the main, nobody reject that- is for people >to get pleasure to be here and so keep this alive. Again an again it is >forgotten that the core is good will between us and so free hand to talk of >anything. But then, again and again, when an election is in stake, the >candidates chosen are the most hard liners, the more dogmatic, the more >inclined to apply rules, the more hipnotized by the magic sentence "on topic". >Then, of course, we get what we have sowed. >fernando Hello Fernando, Firstly, no posts have beeen "wiped" recently unless they contained personal insults (and only a few of those). Nothing concerning this issue has been deleted, nothing of yours, Djordje's, or anyone else has been removed at all. The policy so far has been, when a post is off-topic (such as this one, again I apologize), to remind the poster to please stick to computer-chess (and I will try to, from now on). We do not want to delete posts, we don't want to see people leave, we want this to be an all-inclusive club where computer chess can be discussed without fear of harrassment or ridicule. I am actually sick, feeling sick about this whole thing. I don't want Djordje to leave, and I'm going to write him a follow-up to my apology to him that will further clarify the thoughts I expressed in the original message. He simply took what I said in a way that wasn't intended, which was unfortunate, and then chose to make a private matter public. But I think he's doing a good job for computer chess, and I have said several times on this forum how much I enjoy reading his webpage. Fernando, you make the case for a more open forum. I won't argue with you, now, here in this message, but that was simply never the idea for CCC. Maybe it will be next time, and if so, we'll see what happens. Please run for mooderator next time, perhaps I'll vote for you. But understand this: we are doing, the three of us, the best job we know how, we are all very committed to doing the right thing, and we hope people appreciate our efforts and the ability to have a wonderful place like CCC to be a part of. You and I disagree on a good many things, but I always read your posts, and not just because I have to. You have a contrary point-of-view, which plays counterpoint to some others. And it's interesting. But I do agree with you that we aren't saving the world here. Sometimes we get caught up into things, and they build out of proportion. If we could all cut each other a little slack, might be helpful. Please, everyone, do not respond to this message; if you want to carry on via email I or the other moderators will be glad discuss it. Let's all get back to computer chess. Will
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