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Subject: Re: Please, stop it. ?

Author: Reinhard Scharnagl

Date: 05:18:58 08/03/05

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On August 03, 2005 at 07:45:50, Lars Bremer wrote:

Hi Lars,

> It does not matter whether the format is called X-FEN or Shredder-FEN, the real
> problem is that is called "FEN" and "PGN".

that is why I have tried to find a compromise with SMK, because compatibility
is much mor importat than names or keeping own proposals unchanged.

> What happens when the user clicks on
>a PGN file? Right, a pgn viewer starts and shows the game list. I use Chessbase
>9 for that purpose. Since I don't open checkers games or reversi games with
>Chessbase I have not the wish to open FRC games with it. If the game file has a
>*.pgn extension, I (and the operating system) cannot decide what is insinde,
>chess games oder frc games. It would be more useful to call it *.pgn and
>*.pgn960, for instance. So I can open chess games with a chess program and frc
>games with a frc program without looking inside the file before. *That* would be
>a real compatible solution in my eyes because there wouldn't be a re-definiton
>of an existing format. It is ridiculous to fill beer in wine bottles.

You describe a very hypothetic "problem". It does not make any sense to design
a FEN for engines and GUIs not supporting Chess960. The user of old programs
cannot use a Chess960 PGN anyway. And traditional chess games easily could be
selected by chosing only PGN entries without any FEN Tag included at all. And
it also would be a good idea to look, which PGN files will be downloaded. It is
quite normal, that files of a more powerfull successor program cannot be used
by its ancestors. Just have a look on several MS Word file formats.

A more realistic problem is, how existing Chess960 GUIs and engines should use
the imcompatible Shredder FEN, or online databases, PGN viewers etc.. An FRC
aware program of course should rather look to be compatible to the already
existing Chess960 world, before any other pseudo problems should be "solved".

Reinhard.





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