Author: Engin Üstün
Date: 03:29:06 08/04/05
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On August 03, 2005 at 19:53:19, David Mitchell wrote: >On August 03, 2005 at 16:30:29, Engin Üstün wrote: > >>ok, but first priority is to write better chess engines and then the second is >>the hardware who this program is running. >> >>In the last computer tournaments and others (padaborn, leiden etc.) who was >>playing mishmash of hardwares is not interesting, because simple they was on >>different hardwares. >>that is the reason why i don't playing in this tournaments. >> >>To compare engines is to playing on same equal hardwares ! >> >>Not PC against moster hardware, that's not fair. > >Gentle Engin, > >Please do consider that you are replying to the former author of CRAY BLITZ, >which ran on, (shockingly), a CRAY supercomputer!! And of course, won the WCCC. because this run on supercomputer!! > >Thanks for the giggles, though. What you think is "fair" unfortunately, is also >lacking in interest, and therefore, in sponsors, and therefore, has been >squashed flat by general marketing forces. unfair is the big different of the hardware speeds, that is not interesting and unfair against other engines. > >As long as everyone knows the rules, and abides by them, it's hard to say that a >better hardware + software combo, is somehow "unfair". > why hard to say ? that is simple understandable. same engine on different hardware and different hashtables, of course the engine run on faster hardware and more hashtables will be winning every time. >There would never have been a Belle, Cray Blitz, Deep Thought, Deep Blue, SMP >versions of Crafty, Deep Sjeng, Shredder, Fritz, or Hydra, without those >"unfair" rules. > No, i don't think so. Crafty, Deep Sjeng, Shredder or Fritz are very strong engines without fast monster hardwares, they normal PC is enought, but by Hydra i don't know to say this engine is very strong, because this only run on 16 core super hardware. if Hydra and Shredder or Fritz to play on simple AMD Athlon XP 2000, then will be see what's going on. >Just think about the milestones and generated publicity in CC that have been >stimulated by the competitions of all the above programs, running on "unequal" >hardware. Where would we be today, without all that? > >Dave 64bit dual core or more cores is interesting, then run on same equal hardwares, i mean, Deep Shredder, Deep Hydra, Deep Fritz, Deep Hiarcs, Deep Sjeng, all with ponder and same hashtable sizes. which engine will be win you thinking?
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