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Subject: Re: AMD A64 X2 DUALCORE

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 05:25:11 08/05/05

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On August 04, 2005 at 08:48:42, Engin Üstün wrote:

>On August 04, 2005 at 08:19:04, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On August 04, 2005 at 08:09:16, Engin Üstün wrote:
>>
>>>you don't understand me what i will to say.
>>>
>>>
>>>-first is the good written chess engine with much chess knowledge in there.
>>>
>>>-second is the fast hardware.
>>>
>>>-of course both of this is good
>>>
>>>
>>>i will to say don't forget to improve the engine, not only going to get a fast
>>>mashine.
>>
>>These are not my own words but from stefan meyer kahlen and rudolf huber:
>>  "searching 5 plies deeper compared to what diep gets now,
>>   is +90 rating points."
>>
>>That's a lot of rating points. Obviously those first 2600 rating points you get
>>by having a strong engine are more relevant.
>>
>>A weak engine has no chance even at 10 million processors.
>
>Ok, my engine Tornado have only a rating about 2350-2400 normal standard single
>pc at the moment, but i will to improve it more and more first to reach the 2800
>and above rating on single cpu, and then if its run on supercomputer with more
>cores, maybe programing SMP to reach over 3000 rating.

So your assumption is that just getting a few plies more wins you 200 rating
points?

For an engine that already has 2800 rating, it's complete nonsense to
assume that moving from 14 ply search depth to 18 is going to bring 200 rating
points.

Be happy if it brings you 40.



>we need new technics about to reduce the searching tree and go to deeper plys.
>
>i wonder about shredder goes so 3-5 plys deeper searching against other engines
>on same hardware.






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