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Subject: Re: Chess pc program on super computer

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:04:43 08/05/05

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On August 05, 2005 at 11:40:26, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On August 05, 2005 at 11:03:10, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On August 05, 2005 at 07:40:55, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On August 04, 2005 at 13:38:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 04, 2005 at 07:49:10, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 04, 2005 at 07:15:02, Engin Üstün wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>what is about the intelligence of the program? i mean the knowledge of the
>>>>>>program ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Well the competition in that respect has been closed already,
>>>>>as diep has more chessevaluation knowledge than any other program.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That ought to be worth a "post of the year" award.  "the competition is closed".
>>>> :)  Just like the question "can a cluster be used to play chess?"  The answer
>>>>was (at first) "No, I can proof that the latencies are too high and the speedup
>>>>can't be > 1.0".  It was later "yes, everyone else has tried and failed, but
>>>>Diep can use a cluster now."
>>>>
>>>>that gets _so_ old to continually read such crap.
>>>>
>>>>Why is it that the program "with more chessevaluation knowledge than any other
>>>>program" can't win a major tournament with the regularity of the inferior
>>>>programs like Shredder and Junior?
>>>>
>>>>Go figure...
>>>
>>>Are you suggesting that Shredder has less evaluation knowledge than Crafty?
>>>
>>>Go away.
>>
>>No
>>
>>Bob Hyatt never said that Crafty has more knowledge.
>>>
>>>Shredder has *way* more than you realize.
>>>Junior9 has way way more knowledge than older versions.
>>>
>>>The proof is obvious that chessknowledge works.
>>
>>Bob never said that chess knowledge does not work.
>>
>>Uri
>
>By the way, has your 2000 line evaluation function "enough to get world
>champion" already finished?
>
>Vincent

No but I think that fruit's evaluation with better search and good book is
enough to win the world championship.

How many lines are in fruit2.1's evaluation?

Fruit eval.cpp has a less than 2000 lines
There are functions like piece_attack_king not  in eval.cpp but on the other
side there are empty lines and asserts and comments in eval.cpp so I am not sure
if Fruit's evaluation is more than 2000 lines.

Uri



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