Author: Uri Blass
Date: 01:01:47 08/06/05
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On August 05, 2005 at 21:26:44, Juan Pablo Naar C. wrote: >On August 05, 2005 at 21:07:56, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On August 05, 2005 at 18:33:01, John A Johnson wrote: >> >>>I agree entirely Fruit is one of my favorite engines. I am amazed at how often >>>it predicts the same move(s) strong players analyze or play. Thanks Fabien. >> >>I think that it may be a good idea to give comments to the evaluation in a >>seperate text file so even humans without programming background will be able to >>calculate fruit's evaluation. >> >>It is possible that it may help chess players to play better. >>It also can help programmers to have better ideas for improvement in their >>evaluation. >>Inspite of spending hours on Fruit's code I still do not understand most of the >>evaluation. >>I suggested in the winboard forum to do some project of commenting fruit's code >>in the hope that more people will understand more of it but unfortunately nobody >>seemed to be interested in it and it seems that nobody is interested to help >>people to understand it. >> >>I thought that people may help me to understand parts of it and I will also help >>them to understand other parts of it so it will be easier both for me and for >>other people to understand fruit[I think that if I try to understand fruit >>without help it may take years(I do not plan to spend many hours every day in >>trying to understand it) so I want to do the process shorter]. >> >>Unfortunately it did not happen and it seems that people are divided to the >>folllowing sets. >>1)People who are not interested in understanding fruit. >>2)People who are interested in understanding it but prefer to keep the knowledge >>to themselves because they do not want their opponents to understand it. >>3)People who do not believe that they can understand parts of fruit. >> >>Uri > >Hi Uri, > >I think Thomaz (author of Toga) understands it, ask him help. > >JPN I will be surprised if he understands more than a little of it(understanding little of it may be enough to make changes to improve it). Of course it is productive if he tells us what he understood from Fruit(it is clearly more productive than releasing some beta version when almost nobody who download it knows what he changed). I assume that he does not release notes that explain what lines he changed in the code and what he understood from it but in case that I am wrong I would like to get a link to download the notes. Uri
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