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Subject: Re: WCCC participants

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 11:08:50 08/06/05

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On August 06, 2005 at 04:12:06, Uri Blass wrote:

>On August 06, 2005 at 03:50:28, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>
>>On August 06, 2005 at 03:39:00, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On August 06, 2005 at 02:31:32, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 05, 2005 at 21:59:39, Madhavan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 05, 2005 at 14:05:20, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>The following programs will participate:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- Jonny
>>>>>>- Deep Sjeng
>>>>>>- Zappa
>>>>>>- Isichess
>>>>>>- Crafty
>>>>>>- Shredder
>>>>>>- Diep
>>>>>>- Junior
>>>>>>- Fute_My
>>>>>>- Fruit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>hmm... looks like a round robin instead of 11 round swiss.
>>>>>>Seems i have to fight for the 9.rank ;-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Gerd
>>>>>
>>>>>Excuse me,What is fute_my?I assume its fritz with new
>>>>>nick?Quest==Fritz==Fute_my?
>>>>
>>>>Not fritz - but i really don't know.
>>>>May be a program provided by the icelandic host - we will see.
>>>>Reykjavik university has a strong computer science department, and
>>>>Yngvi Björnnson is back from Alberta - but only a guess.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Fritz,ChessTiger,ProDeo,Hydra,Spike and many other programs missing?
>>>>
>>>>Donninger told something in german CSS-forum that Hydra don't plays because as
>>>>top favourite they only have to "lose".
>>>
>>>I do not understand that excuse.
>>>By that excuse Shredder should now decide also not to play because if hydra does
>>>not play as a top favourite they only can lose.
>>>
>>>Hydra is also not commercial so I see nothing that they can lose by
>>>participating in WCCC.
>>
>>If you spend "millions" of $ into a project - and you accidently draw an amateur
>>or open source program or with some bad luck you even don't get the title - you
>>might have more problems with your investors than devalue WCCC and keeping up
>>the legend of an unbeatable 64-headed monster and to make some cage fight
>>against kasparov or so.
>
>I do not see why investors will prefer to invest money in a program that escape
>playing competitions in WCCC because people do not want to invest money on a
>program that does not play but maybe I do not understand investors.
>
>Uri

It is funny an Israeli posts that about a Sheikh whose country is in war with
Israel.

I DEFINITELY understand why the sheikh is having hydra.

  a) development costs he didn't need to pay, it was already strong when he
     took it over
  b) for just a couple of hundreds of thousands he has already got world wide
     publicity with the Adams match. I saw hydra several times mentionned at
     CNN even
  c) he'll get even more publicity with coming matches
  d) what else has he got do to with his money, build atomic bomb to destroy
     Israel and after that USA&Europe? Already been done by others. No fun,
     and factor 1000 more expensive.
  e) hydra team will reach their goal of course. They just buy the GMs and
     their machine will look unbeatable. Whether you kick butt with it or
     beat their machine in some small forum/chess server or in a 30
     participant world championships, that doesn't matter. What matters is
     the big goal; the big goal is that the average person on the planet who
     now and then turns on his television will see an unbeatable
     looking machine. And the sheik can get it with a minimum of investment.
  f) they can reuse the hydra machine for other purposes. If you have a 1024
     processor hydra machine with fpga cards, you can also ideally use it for
     other things such as atomic explosion simulation, weather prediction
     and so on. Those machines can do anything except buy you a beer.

So i definitely understand why he invests in Hydra.




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