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Subject: Re: Fritz-Fruit. A 256 move time win

Author: Thomas Logan

Date: 10:46:15 08/08/05

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On August 08, 2005 at 12:28:50, Uri Blass wrote:

>On August 08, 2005 at 09:03:08, Thomas Logan wrote:
>
>>On August 08, 2005 at 08:44:51, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps it should be a draw ?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Perhaps? This is a Chessbase-GUI-Bug and has nothing to do with neither Fruit
>>>nor Fritz. Itwas reported here several times. OTOH it is perhaps poetic justice
>>>for the premature adjudication in game 24:
>>>http://talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?440308
>>>
>>>regards Joachim
>>
>>I am a little puzzled
>>
>>I thought the loss was because of time control- fruits clock ran out
>>
>>because of sudden death time control
>
>
>No
>
>The loss is because Fritz gives the engine wrong information
>I think that every game that is more than 256 moves should be a loss for Fritz
>because it is Fritz's fault(Unlike Fruit the GUI is part of Fritz and Fritz
>cannot use different GUI)
>
>I know that Fritz gives wrong information to the engine because I tested Movei
>under fritz and found based on the logfile that at move 256 Movei get simply
>wrong information about the time to finish the game and it also get fen instead
>of getting move of the opponent(It is also a problem because it can cause draw
>by repetition in better position.
>
>I tried fischer time control 10+10 and it simply got 610 seconds to finish the
>game after move 256.
>I guess that in the case of Fruit Fritz told it that it has 2 hours or 3 hours
>to finish the game inspite of the fact that it had no more than few seconds on
>the clock.
>
>Note that I did not play a full game(I was too lazy to wait to see it happen)
>but copied a game of almost 256 moves and played against Movei and later looked
>at the logfile.
>
>Uri

Thanks Uri

Based upon your comments and the comments of others I amended the game score

currently

THOMAS-KBZT8WLT, 120'/40+60'/20+30'  0

               12345678901234567890123456789012
1   Fruit 2.1  ½110½½½001½11½0001001½½½11½0½1½½ 16.5/32
2   Fritz 8    ½001½½½110½00½1110110½½½00½1½0½½ 15.5/32

Fruit leads by one

Tom



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