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Subject: Warning: Long, rambling and (possibly) off-topic

Author: Roger Brown

Date: 05:19:01 08/10/05


Hello all,

I have read with varying feelings the posts on the

Fruit issue and all I can come away with is a

genuine sadness.


Whatever else he is, I have found Fabien to be a

genuinely modest (this is a real feat because I am

not modest and I have a lot to be modest about!),

creative, talented and generous individual.


I have found these qualities in other authors to be

sure.  Tord comes quickly to mind.  Dr. Hyatt is

not so modest but hey, if I did half the things he

has done, I would be on the roof proclaiming them.


:-)


Back to Fruit and Fabien....


It was always clear to me that Fabien's intention

was to make Fruit and its derivatives publicly

available.


I cannot bring myself to call them anything else

but quite frankly, if this had been the very famous

Crafty or TSCP or Sjeng engines these derivatives

would have been called *clones* and there would

have been little disagreement.


I expect  massive disagreement on this point.....


The modification of someone's creative ideas does

not them yours in fact or in spirit and it is here

that the various parties seem to miss the point.

Fabien's generosity of spirit in giving us such a

strong engine to play with was to make the engine

and all of its derivatives publicly available.


I have read the legal interpretations of the gpl on

this forum and I have sought interpretations from

those better able to deal with legalese.  It would

seem that what was done was done legally (private

non-released betas etc).


The spirit in which the terms were interpreted was

severely lacking in my opinion.  Fabien made it

clear that the private releasing of betas was

objectionable to him.


Was this so difficult to comprehend?  Even more,

was this so difficult to comply with?  I for one

consider Fabien's new direction as a negative one

in the sense that he so clearly finds it

deplorable.


I for one do not think that the satisfaction of a

couple of users outweighed the intent of he

programmer but it was legally done so there is no

issue of wrongdoing.


Ahhh, but the spirit that was injured....


I cannot help but feel that the author of the next

big thing (in my lifetime that has been Ruffian and

now Fruit) will use this entire episode as a guide.

Perhaps they will simply go commercial when copying

will then result in legal trouble.


I am not Fabien's spokesperson nor am I his friend

(friendship is a complex concept for me) but he is

someone I admire and for me, that is considerable

praise because admiration does not come easy.

I say respect the spirit, go beyond the law and you

will satisfy the law as well.


Toga, Moga and the others to come, I wish you well

but before you copy and announce your derivatives,

find out what the intent of the author is.


Increased strength (possibly) is not sufficient justification....


Go beyond the law....


Just my rambling two cents.


You were warned in the header - long and possibly

off-topic.


:-)


Later.




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