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Subject: Re: WCCC Guessing Game[Question to Gian-Carlo]

Author: Madhavan

Date: 09:10:00 08/11/05

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On August 11, 2005 at 11:36:17, A. Cozzie wrote:

>Well I have taken my holiday from CCC to improve my program, but I'm flying out
>tomorrow and not going to make any big changes today, so its just a matter of
>packing up, and I have some free time to speculate.  Quite frankly I think
>guessing who is going to score what in the WCCC might be more fun than playing
>with it, and unlike boxing programs can't use you ranking them poorly as
>motivation.  So here goes:

I'm gonna work on Peter's blog,just messing his tag board.He is good at writing
blogs about openings and tournament happenings.

>1. I'm predicting Junior to repeat.  No one tests against Junior - they all test
>against Shredder.

Junior got a draw against a freeware Jonny last year,so I don't give it over
estimation.It's enough to say Junior wins in a thriller,might or might not
happen.

But Shredder is my favourite to win this time,but I'm also cheering for Fruit,I
should expect fruit to finish top 3 but It's hard because,in massy Fruit
finished 3rd.

>2. I'm predicting this is the year that Shredder finally falls into the middle
>of the pack.  Shredder simply hasn't improved since 7.04.  7.04 was a great
>engine, but the rest of the world has caught up with him.  In addition, Fruit is
>joining, and Fruit is hell for Shredder.

Shredder is the best according to testers,Shredder does well against Fruit in
all testing games.If fruit has chance to outperfrom shredder,that would be great
surprise.

>3. I'm predicting Crafty and Diep both do pretty well, simply by virtue of
>hardware.  15M nps is nothing to write off easily, and Peter Berger with his
>blood contract with the devil will again get Crafty positions where it reacts
>well.  On Diep's side, he might finally get a decent search depth, which has
>been Diep's achilles heel since time immemorial.

I don't know about Diep's improvement.Last year at Netherlands,Diep did pretty
well,finishing 1st place and ahead of Nexus.

Peter is good operator as well as good opening book creator.Both Bruce and Peter
are good at Hand Operating.

>4. I'm predicting Fruit only finishes in the middle of the pack.  Fruit is a
>strong program, but it isn't parallel and my prediction is that it gets killed
>in the opening book at least 3 or 4 games and loses before it computes its first
>instruction.

Yes,I predict Fruit would finish 5th.

>5. As for myself, my goal is to get 3rd.  I'll be disappointed if Zappa finishes
>less than 5th, but I'm prepared for that :)

Zappa,Crafty,Deep Sjeng and Diep are in the same row for 3rd spot :)
I predict Crafty or Deep Sjeng would finish 3rd atmost,based on ICC server
results of your latest beta,Zappa according to me can finish 4th at best.
I value Deep Sjeng little higher because there was no release of Deep Sjeng
after the current version.had been a long time since its last release,so Its
probable to say that this program has improved significantly to shredder's
level,only that it appears to be Private,Good Luck Gian Carlo :)
Good luck to you too Anthony :)
could you explain about your Deep Sjeng tests and improvements you estimate?
are you using the same CCT hardware?or this WCCC hardware is better than that?
so,My Prediction in order is
Shredder
Junior
Crafty
Deep Sjeng
Diep or Fruit or Zappa

hmm...What If my_fute surprises many opponents? :)

>anthony



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