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Subject: Re: Djordje's withdrawal should not be used for anti-moderator rhetoric

Author: Dan Kiski

Date: 08:09:24 02/22/99

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On February 22, 1999 at 10:48:48, Don Dailey wrote:

>On February 22, 1999 at 10:09:20, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>On February 22, 1999 at 09:23:12, Dan Kiski wrote:
>>
>>>Correct, but whos fault is that, It was the moderators who commanded that such
>>>complaints and e-mails are now off topic and Banned. It did not use to be that
>>>way. And is my only problem with the moderators. I think that they should act as
>>>they see fit, but the moderators also should allow the members to post e-mail or
>>>other abuses if they feel it necessary for the members to judge. The members
>>>should have a right to know if the moderators are being abuses. Now we have two
>>>examples of this, and two members are now gone because they have no recourse to
>>>the moderators abuses.
>>>
>>>I assume you are counting yourself as one of those two, remember we the members
>>>of CCC wanted strong moderation, even this post I am making is in itself
>>>off-topic. So I will add, I think CM6K will be 5th on the next SSDF :)))
>>
>>Very tricky although I think we are strong and regardful. :-)
>>If there is reason to act we do it with pressure.
>>And sometimes there are requests of deleting posts where we said "OK, it COULD
>>be deleted but wait what will happen." We waited and saw that the thread died or
>>the doubtful statement was ignored so we left it.
>>I think this is a fine way to handle this group and it worked and still works.
>>I can't help when Djordje leaves because he can't differ between moderator and
>>personal e-mail (which he could have got from EVERYONE).
>>I can't help when Ernst goes because of a message deletion with a doubtful
>>sense.
>>And finally I can't help when RT leaves because he has a different opinion of
>>his obvious insult.
>>No problem for me, if this is how it goes. It is a pity but I won't beg for
>>coming back nor excuse for that, there is no reason for excuses.
>>The cases could have been more objective if both parties would have not been so
>>rageous.
>>However, we won't change it.
>>If there is a fly in your cup of coffee you can decide to call for the waiter to
>>bring a new one or you can go and leave the restaurant. Seems as if here are
>>some guys preferring the 2nd alternative.
>>
>>>No one is perfect, and the moderators should allow members to discuss moderation
>>>and show why they think they were abused. Right now all the member can do is
>>>take the abuse or leave.
>>
>>What we don't want to be discussed is every single message deletion.
>
>I think your point of view is a very reasonable one.  The vast majority
>want a little moderatorship and that's what you give.   I laugh when
>when anyone walks out on the club,  it's like they are willing to punish
>themselves by leaving to "teach us a lesson."    A big DUH!!!
>
>- Don

Remember they are leaving on principle, ROFL.
Funny, sad and true. Yet some of those concerned in the recent departures have
provided interesting posts which I myself have enjoyed. When they could limit
themselves to computer chess.






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