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Subject: Re: WCCC Guessing Game

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 17:45:24 08/11/05

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On August 11, 2005 at 14:11:27, Andrew Williams wrote:

>On August 11, 2005 at 13:52:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On August 11, 2005 at 12:21:03, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>
>>>On August 11, 2005 at 11:36:17, A. Cozzie wrote:
>>>
>>>>Well I have taken my holiday from CCC to improve my program, but I'm flying out
>>>>tomorrow and not going to make any big changes today, so its just a matter of
>>>>packing up, and I have some free time to speculate.  Quite frankly I think
>>>>guessing who is going to score what in the WCCC might be more fun than playing
>>>>with it, and unlike boxing programs can't use you ranking them poorly as
>>>>motivation.  So here goes:
>>>>
>>>>1. I'm predicting Junior to repeat.  No one tests against Junior - they all test
>>>>against Shredder.
>>>>
>>>>2. I'm predicting this is the year that Shredder finally falls into the middle
>>>>of the pack.  Shredder simply hasn't improved since 7.04.  7.04 was a great
>>>>engine, but the rest of the world has caught up with him.  In addition, Fruit is
>>>>joining, and Fruit is hell for Shredder.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I think you underestimate Shredder (and SMK) very significantly. It's not by
>>>coincidence that Junior and Shredder have monopolized these tournaments in
>>>recent years.
>>>
>>>>3. I'm predicting Crafty and Diep both do pretty well, simply by virtue of
>>>>hardware.  15M nps is nothing to write off easily, and Peter Berger with his
>>>>blood contract with the devil will again get Crafty positions where it reacts
>>>>well.  On Diep's side, he might finally get a decent search depth, which has
>>>>been Diep's achilles heel since time immemorial.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Where did you get information about hardware?
>>
>>with repsect to the 15M nps, that came from me.  He and I were chatting on ICC
>>night before last while I was running the 4x875 system for testing...
>>
>>Anthony was observing and 15M was not the highest number we saw.  :)
>>
>>Actually we played a couple of games during the testing (crafty and zappa)...
>>
>>
>
>I see. Is Peter going to connect to your hardware remotely for Crafty?
>
>Good luck to you too of course!
>
>Andrew

Yes.  The machine we are using is being provided by AMD and is located at their
development lab.  We ssh in to the box...

It's running Suse linux.


>
>>>
>>>>4. I'm predicting Fruit only finishes in the middle of the pack.  Fruit is a
>>>>strong program, but it isn't parallel and my prediction is that it gets killed
>>>>in the opening book at least 3 or 4 games and loses before it computes its first
>>>>instruction.
>>>>
>>>>5. As for myself, my goal is to get 3rd.  I'll be disappointed if Zappa finishes
>>>>less than 5th, but I'm prepared for that :)
>>>>
>>>>anthony
>>>
>>>Good luck, Anthony. I hope you enjoy the tournament.
>>>
>>>Andrew



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