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Subject: Re: What if fruit does win the title.

Author: Arturo Ochoa

Date: 06:00:55 08/13/05

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On August 12, 2005 at 16:15:37, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 12, 2005 at 05:46:42, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>
>>On August 07, 2005 at 00:12:15, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On August 06, 2005 at 21:27:32, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 06, 2005 at 20:15:07, gerold daniels wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Would it have much of an impact on the commercial Programs.
>>>>>
>>>>>Gerold.
>>>>
>>>>I don“t think it will have a strong impact for the Comercial Programs.
>>>>
>>>>However, your question is too too wide and any answer is a mere speculation.
>>>>
>>>>Ok, my answers (speculations)
>>>>
>>>>1) Fruit could become comercial.
>>>>
>>>>2) It would be a great surprise because it would be the first free chess program
>>>>with open source in winning a Title.
>>>
>>>
>>>Oops.  :)
>>
>>This Oops means you asphyxiated.
>>
>>>
>>>Cray Blitz won several, and it was always "open source" as well.  :)
>>>
>>>The chess 4.x guys distributed their source thru the CDC user's group as well...
>>
>>Was Cray Blitz and Chess 4.X Amateur Engines? As far as I know, Chess 4.X was
>>the strongest engine in the 70s but was it considered an Ameteur? The same
>>question goes for Cray Blitz.
>
>By any standard used by the ICCA/ICGA, yes.  Just as Crafty is amateur today.
>And both programs were public source as well as several others, dating back to
>say COKO in the first ACM computer chess event in 1970, to mention just one...
>
>If you consider crafty an amateur program today, then CB has to be the same.  I
>was the author.  Was working at a university during the development, was at UAB
>for the last 10 years of CB's playing years (1985-1994)...
>
>Not sure how else it could be considered anything but amateur based on the
>current ICGA definition of "amateur, semi-professional and professional" (all of
>which are a complte crock in my opinion, but that is another subject..)
>
>>
>>For me, Fruit would be the first engine in reaching an Official WCCC Tournament.
>>Does it hurt your pride?
>
>No pride involved.  Just facts.  But claiming that (if fruit were to win) that
>it is the first public-source amateur program to win the WCCC would simply be
>dead wrong.  Chess 4.x in 1977, CB in 1983/1986 were all open source and amateur
>by today's definition.

I did not claimed. You, guys of this Forum, have a problem accusing people of
claiming things.

I said: "However, your question is too too wide and any answer is a mere
speculation. Ok, my answers (speculations)". I did not claimed. I entered in the
terrain of the speculations.....

I did not claimed. I only said a mere speculation if you can undertand. Your
information was interesting for me but your opps,,, apsss,,,,,, remove your
serious sense of the information. That is.

Now, you pretend create a long thread from a speculation. My god.



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