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Subject: Re: u2600 ICC Rating List -- Feb 22

Author: Peter McKenzie

Date: 10:44:15 02/22/99

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On February 22, 1999 at 06:36:42, Peter McKenzie wrote:

>On February 22, 1999 at 04:09:49, Will Singleton wrote:
>
><snip>

>>7k/2pn1Q2/2r4p/p1qpp3/Pp1b3N/1P1P2PP/2P1R2B/7K w - -
>
>LambChop likes Qxd7 after completing depth 1, 2, and 3.
>Then it switches to Nf5, which it sticks with for depths 4-8.
>Then back to Qxd7 for depths 9-10.
>
>Here we have the search output for depths 8-10 (output is depth, score
>[centipawns], time in 100ths of seconds, and node count to complete depth):

Actually, the score is in 10ths of pawns, not centipawns...

>
> 8  532  2700  295950 h4f5 c5f8 f7d7 c6g6 f5d4 f8f1 h2g1 g6g3 d7e8 h8h7 e8e7 g3g
>7
> 9  395 28200 3776867 f7d7 c5f8 e2g2 c6d6 d7c7 d4b6 c7b7 f8f1 g2g1 f1f8
>10  417 57000 7680080 f7d7 c5f8 h2g1 f8f1 e2g2 c6f6 h1h2 d4g1 g2g1 f1f2 g1g2 f6f
>7 d7d5
>
>Note the huge increase in node counts between depth 8 and 9!

I've had a better look at the position now.
The problem with Nf5 is that after Qf8 Qxd7 Rd6! black is back in the game (Nxd6
Qf1+, or Qxc7 Qxf5).
So let me see:
Nf5 Qf8 Qxd7 Rd6 Qxc7 Qxf5 Qb8+ Kh7 Qxd6, and still a rook up.

this line is 9 ply, minus 1 for a check extension, so 8 ply.
In this line, another ply of fullwidth is needed to see Qf1+ mating (unless you
look at checks in the q-search) which explains why our programs need 9 ply
to see that Nf5 isn't so hot.

Anyone using singular extensions able to try this one?
For example, Qf8 looks singular.

Peter

>
>cheers,
er



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