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Subject: Re: Congratulations Bob!

Author: Roger D Davis

Date: 17:20:22 08/14/05

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On August 14, 2005 at 20:12:37, Eugene Nalimov wrote:

>On August 14, 2005 at 20:08:21, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On August 14, 2005 at 18:01:28, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On August 14, 2005 at 17:00:02, Bernhard Bauer wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 14, 2005 at 16:47:43, Darrel Briley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 14, 2005 at 15:22:43, Graham Banks wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Best wishes for the remaining games. It would be really good for this to be the
>>>>>>best Crafty ever! Fingers and toes crossed!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Graham.
>>>>>
>>>>>1.5 with two blacks vs. Shredder and Junior.  Impressive indeed.
>>>>>Congratulations Bob!
>>>>>
>>>>>                         DB
>>>>
>>>>As Bob has pointed out earlier this is pure luck.
>>>>Crafty has serios tactical weaknesses as all the
>>>>computer chess specialists know. Crafty is not even commercial,
>>>>so how can this be explainded in any other way, but luck?
>>>>Perhaps Bob has found a very old version and is running this now, 6.4?
>>>>
>>>>Anyway congratulations and
>>>>Kind regards
>>>>Bernhard
>>>
>>>
>>>I'd bet that those "serious tactical weaknesses" are not to be found on this
>>>hardware, at least until someone is searching far faster than I am...
>>
>>Tactical weaknesses can be found also in software.
>>
>>>
>>>Crafty's "serious tactical weaknesses" are more urban legend than fact...
>>
>>Comparing Crafty with fruit Crafty does not do checks in the first ply of the
>>qsearch when fruit does it and Crafty does not use history based pruning when
>>fruit does it.
>>
>>I think that these are relative weaknesses and using the ideas of fruit may help
>>Crafty to be better in tactics.
>
>Those are not "ideas of fruit". Both are mentioned in the 1977 computer chess
>book written by KAISSA authors.
>
>Thanks,
>Eugene
>
>>Hardware is important to see deeper but there are also other factors.
>>
>>Uri

Mentioned in 1977? When were they first implemented then?

Roger



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