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Subject: Re: Stop whining and vote with your pocketbook + 2 suggestions

Author: Lawrence S. Tamarkin

Date: 17:41:52 02/22/99

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I see absolutely no dissagreement in our point of view; I leave it to you (and
every one else who wants a program like HIARCS DOS (insert any other's), at
$99.95 to buy its wonderful quality.  And the rest of us to buy the Windows
programs like Fritz5, Junior, and Nimzo for $48.95. (Again, insert any other's
as examples).  I have absolutely no problem with that, and in your reply I see
no dissagreement about that.  Sorry if I seem to be repeating myself.  And here
is a typical language problem, I didn't think I was being 'a bit fresh', I
orriginally wrote that I was posting my opinion at the risk of being a bit rude.
 Maybe the same thing, but shouldn't I be quoted correctly, and be credited for
admitting that from the start?  And why are you saying that I am, 'at the very
least to demand such an analysis from a software manufacturer.' - I posted here
for anyone to give their opinion about this issue.  I was not demanding anything
from anybody. (other than their opinion, which I was NOT demanding, only
requesting).  Oh well, I guess we are all just taking ourselfs a little too

So if posting ones opinion is too rude (fresh), for you, than I appoligize for
doing so.  I have noticed on this forum of late that many of the people here are
taking all this stuff too seriously (at least from my point of wiew - Gee, have
I qualified that enough?).  While I am not exactly going to quit this forum, I
will plan on posting mostly on, or
for now on.  We should all lighten up...

mrslug - the inkompetent chess software addict!

On February 22, 1999 at 16:40:23, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On February 22, 1999 at 16:17:55, Lawrence S. Tamarkin wrote:
>>I'm affraid that the surly crowd is always there, waiting quietly in the
>>backround, no matter what.  That surly crowd can curse you, but also they are
>>your best supporters. So companies know their audience, and I immagine, live
>>with their opinions.
>>I'm not going to get all caught up in complaining about the higher cost of
>>Hiarcs, (or other programs), but neither do I see it wrong in asking why that is
>>so.  And I resent the poster(s), who imply that it is whining to discuss price
>>on as an important facter in selecting one's chess programs.  This is ON TOPIC,
>>(within the charter of the Computer Chess Club, as I understand it), and this is
>>the Computer Chess Club, is it not?
>I do not disagree at all.  But I think it is strange to ask the manufacturer's
>to cost justify.  That's why I said "Vote with your pocketbook."  If you think
>the price is too high, buy something else.
>>I bought Bookup8 and Hiarcs 2.1 a few years ago when this business of companies
>>claiming 'My program can Kick your program in the but' advertising was just
>>starting, and I have bought into this like the Software addict! that I am.  But
>>even a chess software addict! such as myself can resist the temptation to get
>>EVERY SINGLE DIFFERENT ONE (and upgrades), when there is so much competition for
>>my strained buck...
>Consumers may imagine that they benefit most when prices drop.  This is not
>true.  Additional profit from a sale can (and will) be used to create a superior
>product on the next go-round.  If all chess programs sold for the media cost
>plus one dollar, there would be no development and chess programs would
>stagnate.  All small innovators would be immediately driven out of the market.
>Be careful what you ask for.  You might just get your wish.
>If all chess programs become cheap commodities, you will get cheap commodities
>as chess programs.  That does not take a brilliant mind to figure out.  I think
>it absurd that a program developed for a very tiny market should be considered
>overpriced when selling for under $200.  And if one product is too dear for you
>then buy a different one.  That's voting with your pocket book.  But if you pay
>less you will get less.  Does that surprise anyone?
>Supply and demand.  If a product is excellent enough, it will increase demand
>which will raise price.  If the product becomes popular enough, it will at the very least to demand such an analysis
>from a software manufacturer.
>the production and reduce price.  Finding a balance is a very difficult business
>problem.  I think it 'a bit fresh'

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