Author: Uri Blass
Date: 13:10:53 08/15/05
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On August 15, 2005 at 16:00:56, Dann Corbit wrote: >On August 15, 2005 at 15:49:30, Uri Blass wrote: > >>I read the following comment: >>"It's easy to broke things in a complex system like a chess program and it's >>very dificult to discover bugs, they are likely not to be discovered with just a >>few days of testing." >> >>My opinion is that it is not correct. >> >>There may be changes that it is a big risk to do at the last moment without >>testing but at least some evaluation changes or implementing contempt factor can >>be done with no risk by good programmers. >> >>part of the test may be playing blitz games and if implementing the contempt >>factor does not cause problems in blitz games and give the expected result then >>the programmer can be almost sure that there is no problem with the new code. >> >>There is no need to use more than some hours of testing to get hundred of 1+0 >>time control games and if change in the evaluation did not cause problems in 1+0 >>time control games it will probably not cause problems also in longer time >>control(changes in the search seems to me something with bigger risk). >> >>Do you have examples that show that my opinion is wrong and changing things in >>the last moment cause problems in games inspite of the fact that no problem were >>discovered in tests. >> >>Note that I think that even changes in the move generator or in the search that >>seem more risky to me have probability of less than 1% to create problems if few >>hours of testing do not discover bugs in case that the programmer has good tools >>to detect bugs. >> >>What is your opinion? >>Is it risky to make changes in the last moment or is it only a problem of >>programmers who did not generate good tools to detect bugs and need to play many >>games at long time control for that purpose. > >Without testing, it is clearly a mistake. > >That is not an opinion, it's a fact. I am not saying without testing but without using more than few hours for testing. Uri
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