Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: WCCC Round 4 tables and 5 games

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:03:27 08/15/05

Go up one level in this thread


On August 15, 2005 at 21:51:28, Matthew Hull wrote:

>On August 15, 2005 at 21:21:46, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On August 15, 2005 at 20:54:51, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On August 15, 2005 at 19:35:25, Mark Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 15, 2005 at 16:55:58, Thomas Mayer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 15, 2005 at 16:41:40, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On August 15, 2005 at 16:21:31, Theo van der Storm wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>C:\DOSEXE\PGN.EXE -d -x wccc13.pgn
>>>>>>>  # Name                   1    2    3    4   P    BU   SB     G
>>>>>>>  1 Crafty                3b=  4b1 10w1  9b1  3.5   8.0  6.50  4
>>>>>>>  2 Zappa                 9w1  6b1  5w1 11b=  3.5   6.0  5.75  4
>>>>>>>  3 Shredder              1w= 10b1  9w1  6b=  3.0   7.5  4.75  4
>>>>>>>  4 Deep Junior          11b1  1w0  7b1 10w1  3.0   7.0  3.50  4
>>>>>>>  5 Fruit                 7b1  8w1  2b0 12w=  2.5   7.5  3.75  4
>>>>>>>  6 Deep Sjeng            8b=  2w0 12b1  3w=  2.0   8.5  2.75  4
>>>>>>>  7 Jonny                 5w0 11b1  4w0  8w1  2.0   7.5  2.00  4
>>>>>>>  8 The Baron             6w=  5b0 11w1  7b0  1.5   7.0  1.50  4
>>>>>>>  9 The Crazy Bishop      2b0 12w1  3b0  1w0  1.0  10.5  0.50  4
>>>>>>> 10 Diep                 12b1  3w0  1b0  4b0  1.0  10.0  0.50  4
>>>>>>> 11 Fute_MT               4w0  7w0  8b0  2w=  0.5  10.0  1.75  4
>>>>>>> 12 IsiChess MMX         10w0  9b0  6w0  5b=  0.5   6.5  1.25  4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  # Name                 1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12    P    BU   SB
>>>>>>>  1 Crafty               X  .  ½  1  .  .  .  .  1  1  .  .   3.5   8.0  6.50
>>>>>>>  2 Zappa                .  X  .  .  1  1  .  .  1  .  ½  .   3.5   6.0  5.75
>>>>>>>  3 Shredder             ½  .  X  .  .  ½  .  .  1  1  .  .   3.0   7.5  4.75
>>>>>>>  4 Deep Junior          0  .  .  X  .  .  1  .  .  1  1  .   3.0   7.0  3.50
>>>>>>>  5 Fruit                .  0  .  .  X  .  1  1  .  .  .  ½   2.5   7.5  3.75
>>>>>>>  6 Deep Sjeng           .  0  ½  .  .  X  .  ½  .  .  .  1   2.0   8.5  2.75
>>>>>>>  7 Jonny                .  .  .  0  0  .  X  1  .  .  1  .   2.0   7.5  2.00
>>>>>>>  8 The Baron            .  .  .  .  0  ½  0  X  .  .  1  .   1.5   7.0  1.50
>>>>>>>  9 The Crazy Bishop     0  0  0  .  .  .  .  .  X  .  .  1   1.0  10.5  0.50
>>>>>>> 10 Diep                 0  .  0  0  .  .  .  .  .  X  .  1   1.0  10.0  0.50
>>>>>>> 11 Fute_MT              .  ½  .  0  .  .  0  0  .  .  X  .   0.5  10.0  1.75
>>>>>>> 12 IsiChess MMX         .  .  .  .  ½  0  .  .  0  0  .  X   0.5   6.5  1.25
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is there a hardware listing somewhere yet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am guessing that Fruit is the only one in the top six that is running on a
>>>>>>single CPU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Against Crafty (for instance) there is about 6-7x speed difference (as a rough
>>>>>>estimate).  I am curious about the other hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Dann,
>>>>>
>>>>>all I know currently is, that Diep & Crafty play on 8-way boxes, Shredder,
>>>>>Junior & Zappa on 4-way, Deep Sjeng on Dual an the rest on single... For Jonny
>>>>>it should be Athlon 64 with 2.6 GHz internally, Fruit is 2.4 GHz...
>>>>>I think Gerd has his own Athlon 64 with him which is afaik 2.2 GHz -> The rest
>>>>>is probably P4 3.0 GHz
>>>>>
>>>>>Greets, Thomas
>>>>
>>>>Crafty has really shown me some very good chess in this tournament. Crafty has
>>>>shown some holes in its play before. I don't see them so far in this tournament.
>>>>This has to be more then just 8 cpu's and 16 million nodes a sec helping
>>>>Crafty's play. For this to happen Crafty must has also stepped up a notch on the
>>>>programming side. Speed is great, but speed can't always fix holes in a programs
>>>>play. As shown by Diep for example who also plays on a 8 way. Bob looks like a
>>>>big threat for any program in this touranment, and it is no fluke that Crafty is
>>>>in first place. Bob has to be considered a favorite to win this tournament. I
>>>>would not have said that 2 days ago.
>>>
>>>
>>>I still wouldn't say it myself.  :)
>>
>>You may not want to say it, but you see what I see...I bet. :) It is not easy to
>>bring everything together when playing in WCCC. You may have done it this year.
>>All the best Bob. Good Luck.
>
>
>I think enormous credit should go to Peter Berger, skipper of the starship
>Crafty (Bob is chief engineer/designer).
>
>Crafty is a well rounded player already, but getting "out of the blocks" cleanly
>is simply fundamental to victory in a strong field like this.


The art of making an opening book is much less about finding lines that crush
your opponent, and everything about finding lines that give your program a
chance.

Peter's done well from that perspective, and that is all that can be hoped for
with the book stuff.  It is easy to play a book line that leaves you dead lost
before the first big search.  Avoiding that is difficult at best...



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.