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Subject: Re: Crafty is playing and definitively losing!????

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:18:49 08/16/05

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On August 16, 2005 at 10:04:52, Robert Hollay wrote:

>On August 16, 2005 at 09:48:45, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>
>>I think that it is not minority but majority
>>
>>some interfaces know to translate the score to score from white point of view
>>but when Movei is running under winboard it gives score from it's point of view
>>and not from white's point of view and I see no good reason to change it.
>>
>>Uri
>
> Sorry Uri, but I think it's much more clearly to give scores from white's point
>of view.
> If you see -3.00 then you immediately know that the engine thinks: "black
>has an advantage".
> But if -3.00 means: "I'm in a loss", then you must know who thinks so, white
>or black?
>
>  Robert

The advantage of score from the engine point of view is that I do not need to
think if the engine is white or black to see if it is winning or losing.

If I see that Movei has +5 score then I know that it is +5 for Movei even before
looking at the board to see the colours.

When I play games I do not think in terms of better for white but I think in
terms of better for myself.

When engines are playing then it is also programmers plays in some meaning(I
remember that Amir Ban said to me when I said that Movei won a game in WCCC that
I can say that I won(I do not use this term because unlike Amir I also play
chess in tournaments so I play has different meaning but I clearly understand
the point) and I prefer to see information from my point of view and not from
white point of view because when I see the score because I do not want to
translate better for white to better or worse to myself but see it directly.

Uri



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