Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 14:54:39 08/16/05
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On August 16, 2005 at 17:46:42, Uri Blass wrote: >On August 16, 2005 at 17:33:29, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On August 16, 2005 at 17:26:28, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On August 16, 2005 at 17:16:33, Paolo Casaschi wrote: >>> >>>>>I know that usually when program improve they improve in all time controls. >>>>>I do not know of evaluation changes or search changes that make programs weaker >>>>>at blitz but stronger at long time control. >>>>> >>>>>In thoery it can happen but I need to see a proof for it and I believe that >>>>>fabien mainly test in blitz time control(he can correct me if I am wrong) >>>>>because usually productive changes in blitz of adding knowledge to the >>>>>evaluation are also productive at long time control. >>>> >>>>Do you have any proof or evidence that there is some correlation between blitz >>>>strenght and slower speed strenght? >>>>If you dont, then we can only compare assumptions and I tend to agree with Bob >>>>Hyatt since the same non-correlation is evident with humans and because common >>>>sense... >>>> >>>>--Paolo >>> >>>Of course there is correlation. >>> >>>Look at every rating list at long time control and you can see Shredder,Fruit >>>Fritz,Junior,Hiarcs at the top of the list. >>> >>>Now look at rating list at blitz. >>>What do you see? >>> >>>Surprise for you >>>Again the same programs. >>> >>>You do not believe it? >>>Here are 2 rating lists one for blitz and another one for longer time control. >>> >>> >>>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/rangliste.html >>>http://www.miko42.de/turniere/blitzturniere/blitzrangliste.html >>> >>> >>>Uri >> >>Did you even look at your data? The programs do _not_ finish in the same order. > >Yes but the difference is small. > >Fritz is 38 elo better than hiarcs at long time control and 6 elo weaker than >hiarcs at faster time control. > >It is only 44 elo difference. > >Uri 44 is pretty significant. I'd take a free 44 anytime I could get it.
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