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Subject: Re: First overnight Toga II 1.0 Blitz results are impressive...

Author: Thomas Mayer

Date: 10:38:13 08/17/05

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Hi Uri,

> I believe that I also can do fruit stronger but without motivation of earning
> money from it I am not going to try.

well, I wonder how your motivation could be earning money, I think those days
are definitely over where you really can earn something with chess engines. My
motivation was and is always how far can I get with my OWN code. I do not really
understand what the motivation can be to do that with another code. You know,
someone on playchess did compare Fruit & Toga with Coka Cola & Pepsi... I think
the relation is MUCH nearer, it's more like taking 10l of Coke and put in there
1ml more suggar. It might taste a bit different (for some even better) but it is
still the same...
I agree that it might be still quite easy to improve Fruit by a bit, at least as
long it is such a young program - in the eval there are for sure still a lot
parts where you can find improvements. But as long Fabien works so hard on it I
think this will become more and more complicate. I really hope that in future
tournaments we all must not be aware of so many clones of whatever source. E.g.
when Toga or another Fruit clone would participate at CCT or WCCC or whatever I
would immediately complain at the TD. And if it is not taken out I would refuse
to play at all. Thanks god that at the moment most tournament rules forbid such
clones anyway. But in future we might get even more suspicious about every new
engine of unknown authors which are extremely strong. IMO that is the main
achievement of Toga - that new authors must prove that there program is
original. That's somehow sad.

Greets, Thomas



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