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Subject: Re: Fruit - Crafty ... finished or not?

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 07:42:33 08/18/05

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On August 18, 2005 at 09:48:19, Peter Berger wrote:

>On August 18, 2005 at 09:01:51, Majd Al-Ansari wrote:
>
>>I was watching the game on playchess and looks like Fruit won the game.  Very
>>impressive game considering Crafty was using 8 processors and Fruit only 1
>>processor.  But I have to admit I think that Crafty was caught by poor book
>>opening.
>
>I am not sure I completely agree with this assessment, at least not when put
>this way.
>
>The potentially controversial move is 11. ... g5 I suppose. I don't think this
>move is that bad at all, objectively.

I hope you know that objectivity doesn´t count in computer chess at all.
Crafty 19.19 thinks the position is about +1.2 for White after this move and
Fruit 2.1 thinks it is +1.

Before that move both think it was equal.
So the game was practically decided after this move.

Let's move a little further: 12. Qd2 h6
>13. Qc3 Qf6 14. Kh1 . Here Crafty played 14. ...Bb7?, that is clearly a bad
>idea. The king has to stay in the centre or castle queenside if necessary, the
>bishop belongs to d7 or e6 and then the rooks both belong to the kingside to
>attack white's king.
>
>After 14. ...Bb7 white has an edge, but black is not lost. After 15. f4 gxf4 16.
>Bxf4 the next critical point is reached. Here a possible move is 16...Rg8 e.g. -
>nothing to brag about, but black is still well alive. Instead 16. ..O-O ?? is
>just suicide.
>
>So yes - this line should never have been in Crafty's book, because it could not
>deal with it. I am to blame for that, so maybe 0.6 points were lost because of
>that - bad enough !! The rest is Crafty's fault, that just castled into it.
>
>Congrats to Fruit - nice game!
>
>Peter

Your book did a good job so far. Nobody is able to prevent such things
completely.
Bob should develop some tool which analyses all the relevant final positions of
a Crafty book automatically and in case Crafty does evaluate this positions
worse than -0.7 (for example) writes the associated line and score into a
textfile.
That should make life much easier for his book cooker :)

Michael



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